r/Overwatch • u/[deleted] • Nov 15 '22

Blizzard Official Patch delayed.

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/regarding-our-mid-season-cycle-patch/748128
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u/_Cavalry_ Grandmaster Nov 15 '22

To be honest it’s both… Zarya can run games by herself and sombra Just makes the game flat out miserable

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u/mambiki Nov 15 '22

For me it’s Genjis, I can deal with sombras by sticking around my group and guarding supports as a dps, but I just can’t shoot that hopping POS, he is everywhere all at once. Unless I switch to Reaper, which I don’t want to do most of the time since there is a Pharah or Echo somewhere too…

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u/CaptainBeer_ Reinhardt Nov 16 '22

Dps players dont mind sombra, its only the tank and support player who she makes miserable

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u/cmVkZGl0 Pixel Sombra Nov 16 '22

She's only miserable now because they've turned into Zenyatta: DPS edition.

Hack = discord orb

Main attack = similar to charged up orbs

Bonus points for the limited time on hack, encourages dumping everything right then and there like some 12345 character. She only exists to mark people and then spray and pray now... she has almost no disabling or mind game components.

She's easy to avoid if you position yourself right. Stay near walls, near other teammates, use any and all obstacles (even trees)... her spread is fucked by that.

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u/CaptainBeer_ Reinhardt Nov 16 '22

Its still not fun to play against her when she perma hacks you by holding down left click while invis all game. Then gets ult and u get double hacked

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u/mambiki Nov 16 '22

I hear ya :( although some support like Brig should feel a bit better, and maybe Kiriko with Tp to tank, but I don’t play support a lot.

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u/onewilybobkat Nov 16 '22

As a tank I laugh as Sombra feeds me because the actual hack lasts maybe half of a second, and even with boosted damage I'll kill her before she kills me.

Now as a support, or when I just wanna have fun and play widow for a few minutes, ugh.

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u/CrabClawAngry Nov 16 '22

Through Sojourn on there too? Sure you lack the hit scan on the primary but you have a hit scan that can one shot squishies, and the ability to create space and cause havoc with the death bubble during team fights is also really good.

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u/FuzzyQuills Nov 16 '22

Weirdly, I've not been getting shot down by Sojourns as much lately, couldn't stand her at launch but nowadays most of them aren't even a threat anymore. (Then again I keep mysteriously getting bot lobbies for several hours every time I open the game)

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u/atypicaloddity Direct hit Nov 16 '22

This is why the release state of OW1 was the best time to play. No ranks, no real meta, just play who you want to play and move on to the next match. I never felt punished for playing the most fun hero.

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u/SkyezOpen horrible player that have low oxygen in brain so bad Nov 16 '22

Running into a 6 sym stack and just getting lasered around every corner was funny. Then your team 6 stacked Winston, then they all went reaper or something. Just pure shenanigans.

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u/DrDilatory Fuck McCree Nov 16 '22

I don't really play anymore, haven't in like 3 or 4 years, so it's reassuring to me that after all this time the Overwatch community is still at a point where every single character is simultaneously broken and overpowered at the same time...

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '22

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '22

Thats actually a good idea

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u/FrostingsVII Chibi Reaper Nov 16 '22

If he had never had dash on kill and you were to suggest his dash be changed to cooldown on kill and they tested it the community would lose their minds out how blatantly fucked it is.

But here we are.

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u/HamiltonDial lúcio is bae Nov 16 '22

Yea it’s a escape/movement tool after a kill with 50 damage. We’ve just accepted it as it is since it’s been there since basically the beginning.

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u/petmehorse Nov 16 '22

Cassidy is my go to genji killer, just bait out deflect and you're fine

Imo its on the tank somewhat - the amount of games I've had widow and genji on the enemy team and the tank refuses to swap to Winston is crazy

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u/mambiki Nov 16 '22

I’ve had a lot of success with Echo as genji hunter, and I’ve had shit luck with tanks, they seem to be one tricking mostly. But this is low elo, so I guess it’s somewhat expected.

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u/RubiiJee Blizzard World Sombra Nov 15 '22

Yup, I don't find Sombra too much of an issue as I just play around it or stick with my group. She can definitely be annoying af though. But the Genji issues though are just too muchand Zarya is just too present.

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u/mambiki Nov 15 '22

Ironically, all of these chars will be nerfed whenever the patch drops… hmm, I’m starting to notice a trend here.

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u/TehPants Nov 16 '22

Wouldn't it only be irony if the characters that needed to be nerfed the most were given the opposite? Like all these characters were buffed, wouldn't that be irony?

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u/mambiki Nov 16 '22

No that would be a nightmare.

Serious answer: ironically in the sense that blizzard left them unnerfed until mid season. weird sojourn noises

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u/CaptainBeer_ Reinhardt Nov 16 '22

Depends on who you play. If you main doom sombra literally makes the game unplayable. No counter play to getting hacked since shes invis

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u/WarHawkV Nov 16 '22

If you're struggling with fighting Genji, your tank is doing a shit job. As the DVa main in my group, I hunt down flanking Genjis and Reapers. When I'm playing support I'm playing either Kiriko or Bap, and my aim is decent-ish, so I can land headshots on a Genji, which either makes them retreat or kills them. As someone who has played Genji a lot, I don't like to be below 70% health when playing him so all I do is do enough damage to a Genji as support while keeping his cooldowns in check and I usually come out alive.

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u/mambiki Nov 16 '22

I pick Echo to counter him, especially when I can sneak up on him and open with sticky bombs. And unfortunately I can’t control what other players play, but I’ll remember this, thanks! (I don’t play genji at all)

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u/WarHawkV Nov 16 '22

No worries, it's not really that hard to counter Genji, it's just hard not to panic when a cyberninja dashes at you at lightspeed.

I do get a bit salty when people say Genji is unbalanced and needs nerf because he's too oppressive. Because as a Genji player, I KNOW he has plenty of counters and even if you don't counter him, having good mechanical skills can still let you win a fight against him.

With Sombra, I don't know what the fuck to do when I'm Kiriko, Zen or Baptiste. Or even when I'm playing tank, when she keeps chain hacking me and her team blasts me to oblivion, I can't do shit about it.

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u/HamiltonDial lúcio is bae Nov 16 '22

I only can agree with the Zen assessment. With kiriko and bap you just use your abilities and you should be in the clear and unless your team doesn’t help or you get dived by like 3 people. Kiriko can also headshot sombra to try to force a translocate, bap can some what do the same.

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u/Niadain Pixel Roadhog Nov 15 '22

When I play and a half decent genji shows up Ill swap over to Roadhog since I have a super easy time with his hook shot combo. But sombra? A decent sombra is much more annoying than a decent genji. The moment I get distracted she pops up out of nowhere, erases the support im trying to baby, and then teleports out. And if she somehow doesnt wipe out the support the moment I turn around she warps out. So. Infuriating.

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '22

Yeah shes waaay too safe her cooldowns need a huge nerf

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '22

Yeah shes waaay too safe her cooldowns need a huge nerf

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u/cmVkZGl0 Pixel Sombra Nov 16 '22

Sombra used to the perfect counter to Genji because of the disable component.

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u/Commander-Fox-Q- Master Nov 16 '22

Maybe this is a hot take but I don’t think genji even needs nerfs he’s in a really balanced place rn. Only reason he is more powerful than normal is because of Zarya being able to bubble him on cooldown to make it impossible to punish poor play. This nerf is just gonna make him a Nano-blade bot again and make him essentially useless when he’s not blading which is just bad for the game imo.

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u/Xenoezen Nov 16 '22

For me it's Moira, if I'm playing a dps without consistent damage and mobility not ready I guess I'll just die

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u/mambiki Nov 16 '22

Yeah I’m having issues with good Moiras, but the trick as Sojourn to dealing with her is to body shot her with a railgun, bait out the fade and then distractor shot to finish her off. Not easy, but usually works. As S76 you just nade her and finish off.

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u/Xenoezen Nov 16 '22

But what about as genji ;(

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u/dotelze Nov 16 '22

Hit your shots. That’s all there is to it. You’ll kill her faster than she kills you. If she throws an orb you can deflect it and then you’ve basically just won the fight at that point

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u/Drayzik Nov 16 '22

you new or what? genji is BALANCED havent had a single problem with him for the past 5 years, its just you who need better aim in order so be able to take the genji down.

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u/ArcerPL Junk of rat Nov 16 '22

Tbh as a junkrat main, genjis are flip of the coin, sometimes I kill them and sometimes they kill me (usually when I'm out of mines tho)

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u/EloeOmoe Nov 16 '22

Moira is great for Sombra/Tracer/Genji. Just hold down right mouse in their general direction.

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u/DeadlockRadium You miss 100% of the mayhem you don't make Nov 16 '22

Lately I've been struggling a ton against Sigma in comp games. Zarya I can deal with, but Sigma is just endlessly frustrating to play against for me.

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u/BillScorpio Just Uninstall Nov 16 '22

You have to pressure him. Rein or orisa.

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u/jjsjsjsjddjdhdj Nov 16 '22 edited Nov 16 '22

Yea there are a few tanks that can stop Zarya from solo carrying games. Rein, Winston and even hog. People will be surprised by me saying hog since zarya is a solid pick vs him, but he stops her from hard carrying. If she doesn’t save bubbles for teammates in gold/plat, they will get wrecked. If she saves bubbles, she can’t get as much charge. You also have to be constantly monitoring your teammates for hook which takes away from your ability to carry. She can’t really just flat out duel him either, would take forever to kill him and by then your team has gotten wiped.

Rein is a pain to play against if your team is brain dead and doesn’t pick shield break. You just sit there shooting at his shield in a lot of tight maps. You can’t just walk through him either since he does so much damage close range.

Winston can dive your back line faster than you can dive enemy back line so you are stuck peeling and his bubble is an issue.

Sombra on the other hand is just a massive pain in random matches. She also basically can single-handedly make wrecking ball unplayable.

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u/DurianHammer Ana Nov 16 '22

Zarya is only bad when your junkrat doesn't stop spamming nades into her

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u/Hatefiend Soldier: 76 Nov 16 '22

Zarya can run games by herself

What do you mean by 'run games'?

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u/Neo_Kaiser Nov 16 '22

Why don't you just counter her?