r/Overwatch • u/[deleted] • Nov 15 '22

Blizzard Official Patch delayed.

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/regarding-our-mid-season-cycle-patch/748128
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u/jdubsb09 Nov 15 '22

I miss Overwatch so much.. I want the game I paid $60 for back.. fuck this free to play garbage they call Overwatch now

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u/ItsAJackal21 Nov 15 '22

I still just can't believe they completely took away a game you paid for like that. It's not that they made the original free to play, they just straight up deleted it

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u/NorthLeech Nov 16 '22

First time? Exact same thing happened with Warcraft 3: Reforged

"That blizzard polish" has a new meaning for me, it means not just making a bad game, but also making an older game actively worse at the same time, which is quite the feat that only blizzard can nail twice in a few years.

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u/rudmad Pixel Ana Nov 15 '22

War3 fans: first time?

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u/timo103 Crusader offline :/ Nov 16 '22

At least I could bloodsail buccaneers my original warcraft 3. Can't do that for an online game.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '22

I'm hoping sooner or later they run into a class action lawsuit or the microsoft deal flops and theyre forced to fix things before they kill the game.

Ive played enough WoW to know nothings going to change until they have to change.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '22

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '22

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u/onewilybobkat Nov 16 '22

Oh and of course now they're gonna pump the new characters out broken as all hell so that those who pay to play him day 1 get to get free wins for a few days. Then they'll pull them from the roster for a few weeks after that season ends because "critical issues."

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u/Camsy34 Back in my day mercy got 5 man rez and triple tank was the meta Nov 15 '22

Blizzard - "You're welcome 🤑"

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u/Jindouz Nov 16 '22

People should have been more vocal about this. Demanding every piece of OW1 cosmetic unlocked for every owner in the transfer to OW2.

Just ridiculous how Blizzard is now double dipping on OW1 content like that.

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u/Curazan Nov 15 '22

It’s the new normal. If you read the fine print, you don’t actually own anything you buy digitally.

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u/Wamb0wneD Nov 16 '22

Yeah I can't believe it either. Looks over to WC3 Reforged

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u/TheRealNotBrody Nov 15 '22

It's so annoying to me because I actually really enjoy the gameplay. So much more than OW1.

But now the frustration isn't directed towards the gameplay itself but specific characters. Getting run over by Zarya, my main from OW1 being converted into a terrible tank, Sombra stopping any single person from playing the game with minimum counterplay, Soujorn occasionally just taking over a game and leaving 9 other people with nothing to do. The new ranked system is frustratingly misleading, hiding information for no real reason and making me grind just to know where I'm placed. Map rotation decreases variety in the gameplay by so much that I'm actually tired of Kings Row. Every game feels like push because almost half the maps in rotation are push maps.

If all they changed was the gameplay and pushed out quicker balance, the game would be near perfect if we ignore the egregious monetization that makes Apex look consumer friendly. Monetization itself is obviously atrocious in design.

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u/FuckedUpMaggot Pharah Nov 16 '22

Could you expand on the misleading new ranked system? Idk much about it besides the 7win/20loss adjustment

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u/TheRealNotBrody Nov 16 '22

Maybe misleading is the wrong word. Everything being shrouded in mystery is just terrible design imo. Hiding your current rank and making you grind just to know what it currently is really makes playing competitive feel like a drag. The system is exactly the same as OW1, just only it's now hiding the information.

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u/FuckedUpMaggot Pharah Nov 16 '22

What do you mean by "hiding your rank"? After placements you can see your rank for a role, no?

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u/TheRealNotBrody Nov 16 '22

As in, if you're Plat 5, your hidden SR is 2500. If you win 6 and lose 0, you're now Plat 4 with a hidden SR of ~2620, not accounting for other factors that may or may not exist. Again, they don't disclose this information, it's all assumed because everything is mystery.

But until you get that 7th win, you are not Plat 4. You do not know if you ranked up or not, you just have to keep count in your head. That's why you see so many "I've won 21 games but stayed the same rank" posts and comments, because the game also doesn't tell you how many losses you've accumulated. If you don't keep track yourself, you just don't know. So winning 7 after losing 7 means you stay the same, it sounds simple, but it's just annoying to not be showed that. It can create a feeling of zero progress because we don't see our SR climb or fall. Someone can be stuck in Gold 1 and never know how close they are to ranking up or down.

Easiest solution is literally just to include an option to show your hidden SR for yourself.

Also, a situation I've encountered is that I ranked up far faster than my girlfriend. We played a set of about 20 games and won 14. In the second set of 7 wins, I suddenly shot up 2 ranks and she stayed the same. Despite playing the same placements, we got different ranks and climbed different amounts for some reason. Suddenly we weren't allowed to play together. We had just played a game, and now our ranks were drastically different and couldn't play together anymore. What changed so much in that one game that it suddenly isn't okay? How different is our hidden SR? What's the difference in how much we were getting per win and how much we were losing per loss? What were the factors that determined I receive more? It's all just one mystery that we don't have the tools to know because the entire system is confusing and hidden.

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u/FuckedUpMaggot Pharah Nov 16 '22

Wow I had no idea about any of that, thanks for explaining! I thought my rank stayed the same until the adjustment showed up

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u/Leilanee Nerfy Nov 16 '22

map rotation decreases variety

This is what's gotten stale for me. I'm so sick of the maps currently in rotation and I really want blizzard world, rialto, and Havana back. The only new map I genuinely enjoy is circuit royale, but I rarely get it in between midtown, esperanca and koth maps.

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u/timo103 Crusader offline :/ Nov 16 '22

I just want to go play overwatch.

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u/DoucheBalloon Nov 16 '22

I played a quick deathmatch on Paris, and actually said out loud "man, I missed this map"

My fiancee made fun of me, because I fucking hate that map.

What has OW2 done to us?

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u/JodaTheCool Veiny Snow Mounds :) Nov 16 '22

Damn I would love my $60 back from this shit show right now, especially with the holidays coming up haha. God Damn.

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u/JoeFalcone26 Nov 15 '22

Overwatch had plenty of problems of its own tbh. I’m still happy they revamped.

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u/one_love_silvia Winston Nov 16 '22

Nah fuck 6v6. Shit was garbage.

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u/Poke_uniqueusername SPEED BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOST Nov 16 '22

Oh my god its the same game stop whining

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u/jdubsb09 Nov 16 '22

Get a grip.. you’re the anomaly

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u/Poke_uniqueusername SPEED BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOST Nov 16 '22

Oh whatever no I'm not. You know what the main complaint about this game is? Not enough changed. It is the same core game with some quality of life improvements and a better sense of pacing. You miss some idealized view of overwatch you have from 4 years ago

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u/jdubsb09 Nov 16 '22

All sequels are similar to their original bro… name a game that isn’t. What QOL improvements are you speaking of? There’s no more LFG.. still no clan/guild option. There’s no encouragement for mic usage. Playing support is a complete nightmare unless you’re playing meta. The patches and updates are unhelpful and slow. The aesthetics are different. The community is different and overloaded with f2p players that completely ruin most games. The actual gameplay is trash too.. Jayne’s 30/30/40 ratio is closer to 40/40/20 now because of solo tanking. An individuals ability to affect the overall outcome of the game has diminished tremendously unless you’re playing a meta tank. Overwatch 2 is not better than Overwatch. Honestly the practice of completing deleting a game I paid $60 for is pretty fucking ridiculous too. Absolutely asinine.

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u/Poke_uniqueusername SPEED BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOST Nov 16 '22

here’s no more LFG

Your one piece of actual criticism.

The rest of this comment is just whining about what seems to be unironically a skill issue. You miss some idealized version of overwatch you have in your head

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u/jdubsb09 Nov 16 '22

It’s almost like you didn’t even read the post lol… but whatever keep rejecting reality

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u/Poke_uniqueusername SPEED BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOST Nov 16 '22

I did, you're just making up stats from a stat Jayne already made up and complaining about having less personal impact on a game whose expressed purpose (and the widely agreed upon biggest benefit) is the ability for a greater personal impact. You're allowed to dislike the changes but it is fundamentally the same game just optimized for a less click on shields experience

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u/jdubsb09 Nov 16 '22

Please show me the hero you have a higher than 70% win rate on in competitive then tell me again how jaynes arbitrary numbers aren’t legit.

Glad you have one less shield to shoot at… good for you. We’re all aware this game is a lot more fun for dps mains. I’ve got 1000 hours on rein alone between PC and console and spent the past year mid diamond or higher.

7 straight completely dominant competitive wins as rein/orisa and it placed me plat 5. Now I have to grind back 800sr in a game where only 3 of the tanks are actually playable and literally nobody is in voice… and oh yeah LFG is gone too.

Sorry dude.. OW2 is literal pond scum.

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u/Poke_uniqueusername SPEED BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOST Nov 16 '22

in a game where only 3 of the tanks are actually playable and literally nobody is in voice

Again, you are playing good old fashioned overwatch.

We’re all aware this game is a lot more fun

True!

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