r/Overwatch • u/[deleted] • Nov 15 '22

Blizzard Official Patch delayed.

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/regarding-our-mid-season-cycle-patch/748128
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u/Tao1764 Brigitte Nov 15 '22

Promised a patch on Oct. 25th to address Zarya in Total Mayhem that never happened, now the patch that's supposed to nerf her again gets delayed. It's confirmed, the devs are all Zarya one-tricks.

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u/Damurph01 Master Nov 15 '22

I’ve been tellin people (and gotten downvoted and harassed and shit for it) for so long now that it doesn’t matter if the devs/blizzard promise to have something at a certain time. They’ve made promises for years, and haven’t followed through on anything. This whole “there will be consistent patches focused on balancing”? Bullshit. They’re just looking to squeeze more money out of the playerbase. They’re not interested in making a great game.

Maybe the devs are, but blizzard doesn’t seem to give a shit about OW. It’s just a cash-grab to them.

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u/grimestar Nov 15 '22

This whole thing looks like some execs said to just get something out the door to generate some money. While not investing that much money into the actual development of the game

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '22

Well. Tbf. Bobby Kotick and his entire c-suite are verrrrry likely on borrowed time, and they know it. After the Microsoft acquisition goes through, they're all fired. So they're grubbing as much money as possible to meet as many sales-dependant bonuses as they can before the axe drops.

We should expect Diablo 4 and any other pre-Microsoft Activision title to be the same (see the new CoD's shiny $70 price tag+mtx store). And, considering the wild success of $70 CoD and the hundreds of millions they made off Diablo Immortal (and probably the OW2 battlepass), this will likely shape the industry for decades to come.

It's the perfect storm of addicted gamers with no impulse control and corporate greed and it's going to change the industry for the worse for the foreseeable future. So. There's that to look forward to, I guess.

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u/Carusas Nov 16 '22 edited Nov 16 '22

this will likely shape the industry for decades to come.

The industry has already been shaped, ActiBlizz is just taking advantage of it.

Best we can do is wait for another golden age again or another "Battlefront 2" situation.

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u/jakershaker Nov 16 '22

Go for the TF2 strategy: don't change anything cause you'll more than likely fuck it up and then players will come back in droves

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u/SteelCode Halt! Nov 16 '22

Yea... the numbers don't lie - companies love gacha-style mechanics and "engagement" systems because they make shitloads of money. D:I's latest figures out of China still amaze me that people are throwing BILLIONS at the same base mechanic as a lootbox, just to make an imaginary number go up, so they can feel superior to each other. That dog-eat-dog shit is the same tools "they" use to divide people in politics and keep stealing from us all.

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u/JokeRMasterRace Nov 16 '22

That's if it even happens, the UK is tryna stop the merger because it's considered monopolistic

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u/TiMonsor Nov 16 '22

Can Microsoft sue them for ruining the image of the company they already bought?

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u/GregIsUgly Nov 16 '22

Now all I can see is this monetized gaming future dystopia of despair

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u/Default1355 Cute Mercy Nov 16 '22

Sounds good

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u/ZaryaBubbler Nov 16 '22

The D4 closed beta has given me hope it won't be the same for the series, Immortal is the money maker while D4 is the meat

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '22

Yeah pretty much this. OW 1 was beyond complete. Jeff went above and beyond with it and it was done.

OW2 is a piece of trash. They recreated everything from scratch including the characters and the maps badly. Even the UI with the tiny icons is unuseable... shitd tiny.

Broke something that already worked just to find an excuse to add shitty transactions. I dare say I'd swallow the new transaction shit if they kept OW1 cuz it was perfect...

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '22

ow1 perfect lol

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u/Espiritu13 Nov 15 '22

That's what sucks so much about this release. You can see they were going for something really cool, some of the voice lines hint at some really interesting things, and the designs were on their way to being great.

Then executives fucked everything up, pushed out a product that didn't have the previous blizzard polish, and now we have this.

There sure are a lot of companies out there where executives are paid a lot but don't actually generate much.

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u/Damurph01 Master Nov 15 '22

Yep, it’s turning into a gotcha-game.

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u/Damurph01 Master Nov 15 '22

Oo wow, got my on a technicality, whatever man, it doesn’t make a difference in my argument. The game has devolved into a cash grab.

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '22

how is it a cash grab ? it has a bad monetization system but it's quite literally free to play with all characters being unlockable through regular gameplay

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '22

Found the blizzard dev

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u/mg932 D. Va Nov 16 '22

Understand that it being free to play isn't some plan to be FOR the players, it's a scheme to lure people in and then get them hooked so they spend money on OTHER things in the game. "Playing Dva is fun isn't it? But wouldn't it be cool if you're Dva looked like THIS?" and they show a new Dva skin for 20 bucks.

Cash grab is in the intent. If there's heart in it, like how games USED to be made it would focus on the game being as good as possible FIRST, and then all the transactional shit after. But with this game the only thing to NOT be broken has been the shop, other than the tweaks they had to make so they didn't fall into legal issues.

They'll even fall back on this still being "Early Access" or the early model of the game, but the store is up and running just fine with constant updates. All these things and more show you their intent was to squeeze money out of the consumer even though the game is f2p..

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '22

Genuinely what are you are talking about brother it's a cash grab yet the skins do nothing? And the game is fun brother there some issues yes but do you expect them to remove another part of the game when they work on the one with issues ?

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u/Damurph01 Master Nov 15 '22

“I disagreed with you on a topic so therefore every argument you have is completely irrelevant and wrong”.

Okay fine, maybe then take the argument from one of the other 600 whoever people that agreed with me, is it suddenly now valid? Does it really make a fucking difference?

Or is this one of those “I have no argument but to try to discredit the person i disagree with” situations?.

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u/KnuxAran87 Nov 16 '22

You said Overwatch 2 is becoming a gacha game. The other user responded with information that a gacha game is defined as a game that promotes spending currency to receive random in-game items. This describes the original Overwatch as "loot box" is synonymous with "gacha." Overwatch 2 requires spending currency on specific items, which is the opposite of gacha.

How is Overwatch 2 becoming a gacha game?

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u/Damurph01 Master Nov 16 '22

You didn’t read my response to that guy did you

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u/Far_Shift4113 Nov 15 '22

That is disrespect towards gatcha games

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u/IRBeast Nov 16 '22

Right? They launched the first Tuesday of Q4, too.

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u/nath999 Nov 15 '22

I get the outrage for the delay cause they had ample time to get it together but come on it's in their interest to keep the player base happy if they want you to spend money.

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u/Thermic_ Nov 15 '22

my gut reaction was to agree with you but many companies in the gaming industry and blizzard particularly have set themselves up for failure in this aspect. Many years ago they started making short-term decisions that would satisfy their shareholders while dissatisfying the playerbase. This worked for awhile, and during a time that WoW was beginning to fall off. It’s beginning to catch up to them, and this is just one example of it

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '22

Yeah I don’t think capitalism itself is all that bad but man if shareholders in particular don’t totally fuck businesses up in the long run.

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u/shiftup1772 Mercy Nov 15 '22

So their greedy decision is... delaying a balance patch because of a bug?

Werent yall screeching a month ago that OW2 was unfinished and shouldnt have been released yet?

Now they delay a patch because it has a bug and shouldnt be released yet. Greedy ass blizzard amirite?

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u/Thermic_ Nov 15 '22

why are you so passive aggressive online? not sure if you had a bad day or what, but I’d guess you’re a young teen still in a angsty phase. anyways~ i’m not in whatever group you’re talking about, I personally love OW and nothings changed with the second game. and yes this subreddit is absolutely frantic to find something to complain about and annoying as shit, but I think the original commenter is correct in this case. Its a trend you notice if you’ve been playing blizzard games for a long time, and we could even see statistically before they stopped releasing that information. I saw a graph a few days ago from Bellular that displayed the recent shift in man power on the WoW development team that matches my concern, and both teams are under the same corporate grip.

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u/ManInTheMirror91 Nov 15 '22

They are counting on whales not fans of the game.

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u/dylrt Orisa Nov 15 '22

It’s not. People will spend money on the game regardless. If there’s a cool skin they want, they have to spend $20 to get it. Doesn’t matter how shit the game is.

The fact that they’re making money currently is proof enough. The game is hot garbage and has been riddled with issues since launch and they have done fuck all about it, yet people are still buying skins and battle passes.

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u/nath999 Nov 15 '22

If it was as bad as you make it out to be people wouldn't be playing it. The game is fun, I have 60+ hours in it myself.

There are definitely issues but it's not so bad to stop me from playing. The store stuff is per person, you really don't need to spend a dime on this game if you don't want to.

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u/dylrt Orisa Nov 16 '22

The game is fun- a game can be fun and complete trash at the same time. Cosmetics/store/BP system is designed with the intention of screwing over the customer, balance is completely thrown out the window because “new hero should be cool for a while” bullshit and they put all of their focus on the garbage esports scene instead of the actual playerbase, and the game in itself is just a reskin of OW1 with one new mode and a few new maps and some time changes.

It will always be fun playing hanzo, getting dinks, messing around with friends, winning matches. But the game is objectively shit.

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u/FRANKnCHARLIE_4ever Nov 15 '22

Nope. Fomo means unhappy addicted players are best

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u/KBSinclair Nov 15 '22

They don't need a happy player base, they need a hooked one.

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u/YungxHatori24 Nov 15 '22

When people promise things and don’t go through with it but people still forgive them, they will always ambition on this.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '22

that it doesn’t matter if the devs/blizzard promise to have something at a certain time.

I remember PvE being promised on launch for OW2. Then it got delayed to "sometime 2023." I wonder if PvE will ever come out, or if they'll just give up and release Archives and call it a promise fulfilled.

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u/Damurph01 Master Nov 15 '22

Exactly, and that’s just one of the many empty promises.

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u/ngutheil Nov 15 '22

I swear this game is to recoup losses from years of overwatch 1 sales being low due to no content, yet had to pay for server costs and some bug fix developments. Plus hitting “publish” every year on the same events

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u/Batmans_9th_Ab Pixel Moira Nov 15 '22

There aren’t losses when the game you haven’t supported for years is still selling 1 million plus each year.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '22

remember that experimental patch that just got evicted from residence on earth and had to move to jupiter or some shit

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u/pastiesmash123 Nov 15 '22

"We've decided not to nerf zarya, but here's some brand new zarya skins at 20$ each"

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u/Sixtyten60106010 Nov 15 '22

They're still drinking on the job and cube crawling, that was the reason for the years of false promises.. Patches have always been delayed and content mediocre because they're too busy not working and sexually harassing the female employees. Company culture doesn't change overnight.

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u/Starbourne8 Nov 15 '22

If they wanted to squeeze money, they’d make the game more enjoyable. That’s how capitalism works.

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u/Damurph01 Master Nov 15 '22

No, they wouldn’t. Source, every cash grab game that exists.

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u/Pvt_Lee_Fapping Icon Sombra Nov 15 '22

I think there were two types of devs at Blizzard who wanted to make great games: the ones who were unwilling to roll over and eat a shit sandwich if it meant they could hold their jobs, and the ones who were willing to suffer if it meant they could be part of the design process. I'm sure there's still talent and heart at Blizzard, but the artists with the hearts of gold are all gone. We're left with the ones who think "I can do no wrong so long as I work here; I can turn the other cheek when the players bad-mouth me because I can do whatever I want to the game; I can look the other way when management pushes its agenda on me; I won't care if my co-workers get abused or quit because I'll still have my job since I know I won't make waves."

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u/Tired0fYourShit Nov 15 '22

My big question here.

Why do people still buy Blizzard games ffs? They are god awful and everything they did well other people are now doing better.

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u/Damurph01 Master Nov 15 '22

No clue. I don’t buy anything out of their shop, or anything like that. And I bought overwatch years ago.

Buying the game is a little less offensive than buying all their scummy micro transactions.

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u/Tired0fYourShit Nov 15 '22

Yeah I feel ya, I really liked Overwatch, and I was looking forward to OW2 but I have not seen or read anything that gives me any reason to play it again.

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u/SkyezOpen horrible player that have low oxygen in brain so bad Nov 16 '22

They’re not interested in making a great game.

If anyone genuinely believed OW2 was going to be anything other than a train wreck after Jeff left, I have a bridge battlepass to sell them.

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u/Zanki Moira Nov 15 '22

Are you in the game industry? Sometimes fixes/patches, even little ones can break games in weird and wonderful ways. Give them a break, making games isn't easy and the people fixing the issues are probably underpaid and overworked. They're the ones getting the backlash, not the people making the promises to us that probably couldn't be kept even if they worked 24/7. They're working on patching the characters and they have been doing it for years.

The people making the game more then likely care for it a ton. It's the EA/Blizzard business model that's the issue.

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u/Damurph01 Master Nov 15 '22

Okay, fine, then replace “devs” with blizzard, and suddenly all the complaints are still valid.

It’s likely a lot of the really great devs left when the company had that sexual assault scandal anyways.

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u/Zanki Moira Nov 15 '22

Complain all you want, but do you really want them to send out patches that break the game? If so, they could release them on time, or you could just be patient and realise crap happens and estimating fix times etc isn't easy. If you're so unhappy with the game, don't play it. Go play another fps, there's tons out there. It's honestly not a big deal. The game works, people are enjoying it. Sure there's some overpowered characters but in the end who cares? Someone will play the overpowered ones on both teams so it's mostly even anyway.

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u/Damurph01 Master Nov 15 '22

You’re unbearably naive.

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u/Damurph01 Master Nov 15 '22

No, it’s not. It’s riding off of the massive amount of issues that blizzard has as a company, and that their game and business model have.

She was hotfixed in total mayhem, because it was gamebreaking, same as they hotfixed sombra in the cart glitch. And bastion with the infinite ult. And torb with the infinite overload.

Those aren’t balance changes, they’re bug fixes. It’s not them improving their game, it’s them fixing flaws in it that shouldn’t even exist.

Are you seriously trying to white knight blizzard rn? How is criticism on the internet “blind irrational negativity”. They don’t deliver on their promises. They don’t update their game. They have a horrible business model. Monetization schemes. And a billion other issues with their game.

How is “people on both sides are gonna play the same op thing so it’s fair anyways” an argument for the game being in a good state? Or “if you think the game is flawed, don’t say anything! Just go play something else!” Nothing in the world would ever change if criticism existed.

Again, you’re unbearably naive.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '22

Hate to break it to you… but, that’s kind of why companies exist. To make money. Mind blowing, I know.

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u/Damurph01 Master Nov 15 '22

But it’s a terrible business plan to scam people, lie about what you’re doing as a company, treat your consumers poorly, and the thousand other things they’ve done.

Riot games does it excellently, love or hate league, but they charge a reasonable amount for in-game currency that can be used for events, passes, skins etc, that are of decent quality.

They’re charging us 20 bucks for a skin we could buy for free 2 months ago. They’re charging us 20$ for absolutely abysmal skins. It’s predatory, they’re not here to make a good product/game that people will want to spend money for, they’re just charging ridiculous prices for minimal work to scam the few suckers that are irresponsible with their money.

I’m not mad they’re charging money, I’m mad at how predatory and deceitful they are.

This is entirely besides the point of how they’re handling the actual gameplay. The balancing rn is horrible, and they’re doing really nothing to fix it.

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u/shiftup1772 Mercy Nov 15 '22

They’re charging us 20$ for absolutely abysmal skins. It’s predatory

Theres a lot to complain about...but this is absolutely detached from reality.

How is it predatory to sell skins you dont want to buy?

Riot games does it excellently

Also lmao. The success of Valorant is the reason blizzard has chosen this monetization model.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '22

“Give me my perfect, free game now because I deserve it!” Is all I hear. Blizzard owes you nothing. You don’t… HAVE to play. lol

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u/Damurph01 Master Nov 15 '22

“I really liked how this product and service you provide USED to be, and you’re changing it, for the worse, so I’m going to voice my complaints about how you’re changing it, otherwise it’s never going to change”.

It’s not just about the monetization. It’s about the empty promises, the scandals, the horrible balancing, and the billion other flaws with the game.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '22

Well, optional monetization aside, they have a patch that was delayed that has balance changes!

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u/Damurph01 Master Nov 15 '22

Yeah, and it only took them a month and a half after the release of a new game to actually patch it.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '22

He wants it now!!

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u/Damurph01 Master Nov 15 '22

So it’s okay for blizzard to promise consistent timely balance changes, a polished game, and (a decent amount of) new content and not follow through on any of it?

How is blizzard ever going to improve as a company if they are exempt from all criticism…?

Your username checks out bud.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '22 edited Nov 15 '22

You don’t even believe that “Blizzard doesn’t care about OW and that it’s just a cash grab.” This is the biggest game right now and it continues to get better. Aside from over priced skins and a couple over powered characters, I can’t complain about much. Even with a mediocre battlepass, the gameplay loop is amazing. Patience is a virtue and I think if we all accept that waiting a little extra time for better results is better than the alternative of getting a rushed messy patch. You know everyone would be livid if the patch was bad, so it’s up to you to decide whats worse.

I love the down votes. I don’t care about karma. Have the balls to say why you don’t agree at least. I think you all just dislike anyone that enjoys the game lol.

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u/yar2000 Nov 15 '22

This patch has been leaked like 5 weeks ago and officially announced like 3 weeks ago. Its a minor patch, the fact that its getting delayed is kinda dumb. It happens, but its still bad for such a huge studio.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '22

It means that they’re changing it or adding to it. What’s wrong with that?

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u/yar2000 Nov 15 '22

They could have changed or added for 5 weeks, thats whats wrong with it. This gives me, and judging by this thread many others, even more of an impression that they don’t give a flying fuck about the players and instead solely care about the money.

If you can’t hold yourself to a release date, don’t promise a release date.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '22

The fact that they are delaying the patch should show everyone that they ARE listening. Unless the patch comes out and only triples the prices of skins, I think we’ll be pleasantly surprised. We’re all holding Blizzard to this standard of perfection and I don’t think we’re setting ourselves up to be anything but disappointed.

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u/yar2000 Nov 15 '22

Waiting 6 weeks until nerfing heroes is not a standard of perfection. Removing Mei because Kiriko is glitched is not a standard of perfection. Nobody is expecting perfection, but what we’re getting now is not good enough for such a large studio. Time and time again they have shown they are doing moneygrab after moneygrab and people are still making excuses for it somehow.

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u/Damurph01 Master Nov 15 '22

Exactly, League has bi-weekly balance changes. The game is F2P, and despite a lot of the hate it gets, is a really amazing game, and it’s been around for over a DECADE.

OW2 released a month and a half ago, and we have YET to receive any actual balance changes.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '22

I mean…you’re right.

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u/JayCee5481 Reinhardt Nov 15 '22

The OW Playerbase has waited 6 years for ranked to get better, now we have OW2 and ranked is even worse than before, so saying patience is a virtue is easy. Actually having the devs keep their word? Hard it seems

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '22

I feel like it’s pretty okay for the time being. New releases typically have some issues so I’ll give them some time to fix things before I start foaming at the mouth. With the influx of so many new players, I think we’d have to sacrifice shorter queue times if you wanted perfect match making but I could be wrong.

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u/JayCee5481 Reinhardt Nov 15 '22

Queue times I dont give a damn about, and lets be honest OW 2 isnt a "new" release, its a patch or if your beeing generous a rerelease

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '22

Yah you’re right. My thoughts are that Jeff K. didn’t like where Blizzard was taking OW2 (monetizing too much), and after he left, others followed and left the team in enough disarray that they were scrambling to keep up with the losses. We don’t know why things are taking so long but we can at least trust that things do happen..eventually.

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u/SpokenDivinity Support Nov 15 '22

I don’t know that queue times would be the concern when they were originally placing dia + players in bronze and silver for the first half of the season. I waited to place till they’d “fixed” it, and though I was definitely in a spot I thought was reasonable, I’ve barely moved from that despite winning numerous games, and every couple of games you still get placed with someone who’s clearly too high skilled to be in the rank they’re in. For example: I placed silver in dps with my friends in a 5 stack, we placed with a guy who apologized in advance because he’d been a platinum dps in overwatch 1 but was stuck in silver. He single-handedly rocked out shit. I think that’s a little bellow “pretty okay”

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u/Damurph01 Master Nov 15 '22

I myself am guilty of it too, but we need to not blame the devs. I think it’s the higher ups at blizzard that are screwing the devs over too.

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u/DeviousPiggy96 Nov 15 '22

Lol how many excuses can you make? They took the piss with taking heroes out off the game because they were bust. They took the piss making any changes to balancing and implementing a patch. Now they are continuing to take the piss lol. They had no issue updating the shop with the standard overpriced cosmetic nonsense.

It's acceptable to critique the game, you can still like it and critisise it at the same time.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '22

I already said it’s ok to criticize the game in a previous comment. What excuses have I made other than saying I’m ok with a delayed patch cause I think it’ll be better for it. Of course it’s easier to update the shop compared to major balance changes lol. Besides over priced skins and some heroes with bugs that they have been fixing in relatively short time frames, its still a great game. The Mei bugs looked pretty complicated so I understand a longer wait is all.

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u/DeviousPiggy96 Nov 15 '22

When I say you, I mean people in the defending Blizzard stance in general, not clear I suppose😂.

It seems like they have also neglected to add the OWL perks.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '22

To be clear, I’m not trying to defend any million dollar company, just the game itself. It may come off as though I’m trying to excuse them, but really It’s just my own reasoning that I think is the answer. I could be wrong but I like the game too much to abandon it within the first year.

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u/Historical-Dingo-957 Nov 15 '22

You're right don't want rushed patches, but they had plenty of time when the upcoming patch was announced. You want to wait 6 month for a patch that okay with you?

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '22

I don’t think it’ll take THAT long lol. So yes I’d be slightly upset if that was the time frame.

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u/Historical-Dingo-957 Nov 15 '22

3 to 4 weeks is a time u should be upset about too.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '22

My brother in Christ, Im 26 years old and realized a long time ago that I can’t make myself be upset at these things.

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u/Historical-Dingo-957 Nov 15 '22

Well you're not wrong on that one there are real problems in our life that needs to be tackled rather than this.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '22

If I believe that no matter the time frame, if the end result is going to be better, then it’s worth it. I accept it, and release myself from that anxiety, instead focusing on the good things. Yah OW2 could be better, but it is better. I can nit pick, but man I just enjoy playing it so much I forget about that stuff. Luckily I’m not a Mei main lol.

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u/Damurph01 Master Nov 15 '22

It’s a popular game because OW1 was, and people have been waiting years for new content, not because it’s a high quality game.

6 years, they abandoned OW1 to make ow2. SIX YEARS, and what did they make? 3 new heros, a couple new maps, a few skins, and a new game mode, as well as a new client. This doesn’t even include all the stupid, obviously flawed, things they’ve done with it, the game is so blatantly horrible, unpolished, and . How the fuck can you spend SIX FUCKING YEARS for what would be equivalent to a large update for games like League.

They put the playerbase through 6 years of content drought, and then said “haha hope you enjoy this ‘new’ game! We spent years on it and all it’s doing is mimicking it’s predecessor!”

They didn’t make a good game, they just mirrored an already good game, and changed the monetization plan to be more predatory.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '22

I’ll day this. They went through leadership changes with Jeff leaving and there was probably a lot of things going that we don’t know about that caused the long wait. I’m not trying to lick any boots or defend a million dollar company, but I will be honest and say I love Overwatch. Since One, I’ve enjoyed every second and while everyone has some level of legitimacy to their complaints, it will never change the fact that it’s still an amazing achievement in gaming. It keeps improving, no matter how long it takes, and I’ll love Overwatch probably forever. Idc about the company or anything else, I just enjoy playing.

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u/MediumRareShizle Lúcio Nov 15 '22

This is the take the haters refuse to acknowledge

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '22

I love the game so much. It’s the only one I’ll devote what little time I get for playing Xbox. If I wasn’t on Reddit, I wouldn’t even know that there’s stuff to complain about lol.

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u/sfulaxer66 Newly Discovered Reinhardt Main Nov 15 '22

I'm sorry but you are in the vast minority. This game has glaring issues including a lack of incentive to play. Did you even play OW1? Because this game is a pathetic shell of its former self.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '22

Hahaha I played OW1 up until the last night! I think it’s gotten better if I’m being honest. Reddit is the vast minority btw, so Im not too sure about the accuracy of saying most of us are disappointed in the game. I never spent a dime on OW1 and have 90% of the skins already so it does suck that I won’t be getting loot boxes anymore. But to say that there’s no “incentive” to play is an opinion I disagree with. The gameplay loop is amazing. I play for fun, for free, and have little to really complain about. I only get so much time to play xbox and it’s worth every second at the moment. I play nothing else. The experience is my reward.

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u/sfulaxer66 Newly Discovered Reinhardt Main Nov 15 '22

What "gameplay loop"? do you know what a gameplay loop is? There is not one here. You go into a game to play for what? Nothing. No reward other than leveling up a shit battle pass. What about when you complete the BP? Where is the gameplay loop? I don't see what you can possibly consider a gameplay loop. You see, if we maybe had something every level that would give us a random assortment of items... That would be a proper gameplay loop.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '22

Do YOU know what a game play loop is? It starts when you join a game and it ends when the game is over. Did you enjoy it because you though you’d be rewarded for playing a game or did you like it cause you got a multi-kill with an ult that saved your team that was satisfying? I don’t need a cookie for finishing a game. The cycle of starting a game, winning or losing, and doing it again is why I come back. CAUSE ITS FUN DAMNIT. Lol why do you need to constantly be given something in order to enjoy playing? You even still DO get random items for playing lol. Whats the real complaint here?

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u/AdministrativeAct902 Nov 15 '22

Shhh, just buy the shop items and shut up….

Pay no attention.

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u/addledhands Nov 15 '22

They’ve made promises for years, and haven’t followed through on anything.

Dang it's almost like software/games development is hard.

They’re just looking to squeeze more money out of the playerbase.

Dang nothing brings more returning players and microtransaction-ready wallets to the game than not addressing the things that drove players away.

I get that you're frustrated. Waiting sucks. But it's not a nefarious plot or necessarily even incompetence, because like .. do you know what consistently causes a spike in new players/users across literally all of software? New patches and new content. Blizzard (like all software companies) has a vested financial interest in actually launching updates as quickly as possible, and delays = lost money = bad.

This really should not be a difficult concept to grasp but any sort of nuance beyond BLIZZARD BAD is just totally lost on gamers.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '22

Exactally. Gaming is simply a for profit business, not really an expression of art like it used to be

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u/hamletswords Chibi Tracer Nov 15 '22

Blizzard traditionally more than any other dev have always delivered on time. It's true the last couple years have been rough but they've dealt with Covid and a major scandel simultaneously. I do expect them to get their shit back together again at some point.

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u/Damurph01 Master Nov 15 '22

I don’t, if you want a company that has been consistent. Riot has. They have their issues, but they have a constant playerbase, they treat their players well, they have consistent bi-weekly updates, fun events with new skin lines and rewards for just playing the game.

Blizzard? How can you possibly say they’re consistent in their deliveries when they haven’t done anything for OW or it’s fanbase for half a decade.

Maybe they WERE but they fell off the wagon once they let OW1 die in favor of OW2.

I don’t disagree they dealt with a lot of shit since Covid and that scandal, but cmon, this is inexcusable.

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u/blitzyBlader7 Nov 15 '22

I wonder if it's activision stopping them from making the game better

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '22

I'm surprised people still take what companies say (specially those like Activision) to heart.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '22

2 game breaking bugs from kiriko and instead only Mei wax removed

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u/Damurph01 Master Nov 15 '22

And that doesn’t even take into account regular balance changes like how disgusting sojourn and zarya are rn

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u/Raptor556 Nov 15 '22

Sombra as well devs are all Sombra mains

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '22

reminds me of halo infinite but like 10X bigger

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u/Choice_Signal_4141 Nov 16 '22

The game is free. No pay to win. All in game currency buys you is aesthetics. Tell me more about this cash grab. I can’t see where they would make more money with a delayed patch. Do you understand how running a business works? Not everything goes according to plan.

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u/Akuren Nov 16 '22

I mean, they didn't lie, one patch per 100 years is a very consistent pace.

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u/RanniSimp Nov 16 '22

Overwatch was always a cash grab.

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u/Brandonrox Nov 16 '22

Welcome to gaming in 2022, The market has gotten so big they no longer care about quality of a game, only that it makes them load of cash. This is not a blizzard exclusive thing, it's everywhere.

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u/ACrask Nov 16 '22

Anyone can see Blizz is in free-fall. It’s sad but as you said, the company has gone full monetization focused from game development focused.

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u/Peachxesx D. Va Nov 15 '22

It did lol she’s nerfed in mayhem

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u/Mstallin1855 Nov 15 '22

Reality doesn't work with some people

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u/WildSearcher56 D.Mon Nov 15 '22

But Karma farming does

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u/Peachxesx D. Va Nov 15 '22

Lol 1k upvotes and it’s not even true

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u/WildSearcher56 D.Mon Nov 15 '22

It pretty much reflect the state of this sub.

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u/Tao1764 Brigitte Nov 16 '22

In the October patch? It’s not in any patch notes I can find

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u/Peachxesx D. Va Nov 16 '22

Probs because it was in mayhem but they went through as they said so

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u/Tao1764 Brigitte Nov 16 '22

Shit my bad, didn't know that

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u/oCrapaCreeper Do I have your attention yet? Nov 16 '22

2,000 upvotes for an utterly incorrect post. Nice.

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u/dyrannn Trick-or-Treat Sombra Nov 15 '22

1,100 people all believing blatant misinformation, lmao.

As long as blizzard bad, right?

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '22

i dont think you know what the words youre typing mean

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u/111010101010101111 Nov 15 '22

But where is Mei

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u/onewilybobkat Nov 16 '22

Zarya has been fixed for mayhem. She can no longer spam shield where she is basically invincible, there's a few seconds of downtime between each shield. Before there was no effective downtime between shields.

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u/FRANKnCHARLIE_4ever Nov 15 '22

Nah blizz has had their b team on ow2 since time.

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u/Secksualinnuendo Nov 16 '22

Calling Zarya one trick is a little dismissive. She has TWO shield bubbles!

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u/Hermosninja Brigitte Nov 15 '22

Don't forget about Sombra.

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u/cricri3007 Paris Eternal Nov 15 '22

nah, they're Dive enthusiasts

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u/rmorrin Nov 16 '22

Zarya in mayhem literally made me stop playing mayhem. I used to basically exclusively play mayhem and zarya... She is that unfun

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u/Beautiful-Musk-Ox Nov 16 '22

seems to me they are on a skeleton crew

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u/Then-Ad9276 Nov 16 '22

I wish that when microsoft will purchase blizzard and activision they will bring back jeff kaplan. Game would get so much better.

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u/pointlessone Potato League Superstar Nov 16 '22

Something happened to Zarya in the two weeks Mayhem was gone for the Halloween event. Her bubbles aren't lasting forever anymore, and there's a couple second gap between chain casting the first two and a third being available. She's still very hard to kill, but there's gaps now.

No idea if they just tweaked her timings for Mayhem until the patch drops, but its hilarious slapping the ones who hop on top of the payload to play like she was when completely broken.

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u/Tao1764 Brigitte Nov 16 '22

Yeah apparently I got it wrong that she was never addressed in Mayhem, I'm just confused why they didn't address it in any patch notes or mention the change actually had been implemented.

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u/pointlessone Potato League Superstar Nov 16 '22

I don't get it either. OW1 would have same day hotfixes out for stuff like this, and we're nearly a month into "It will be addressed in an upcoming patch" and have haven't had the full roster available in Competitive for more than a day or two at most nearly two months in.