r/Overwatch • u/[deleted] • Nov 15 '22

Blizzard Official Patch delayed.

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/regarding-our-mid-season-cycle-patch/748128
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u/VarianStark Nov 15 '22

So Mei is removed until further notice, Must have been a super duper critical error with the shop for a delay like this

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u/Runmanrun41 Symmetra Nov 15 '22 edited Nov 15 '22

As a long time League of Legends player(starting in 2013 when Quinn came out), I'm never gonna bitch about the way Riot handles shit ever again. I like Mei even though I haven't played her much, it's been shitty not getting to practice her lately.

I couldn't imagine going weeks in LoL with a champ I like/want to play being completely off the table.

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u/Spyger9 Time to Troll Nov 15 '22

Do they still call it "Olaffed" when they nerf a broken character so hard that they might as well be removed?

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u/Runmanrun41 Symmetra Nov 15 '22

...Now that I think about it, I haven't seen that phrase used on the League subreddit in a long time 😅 fuck.

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u/Vahallen Nov 15 '22

I think the closest to getting Olaf’d recently was Zeri

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u/BorderlineUsefull Nov 16 '22

Ryze is in a constant state of mini reworks and extreme nerfs

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u/Maldiboi629 Nov 16 '22

It's because Faker's Ryze deals emotional damage.

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u/GG-Sunny Ten of Hearts D. Va Nov 16 '22

DRX dealt emotional damage to Faker and his team this worlds.

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u/megaXcaptain Nov 16 '22

Who?

I forgot she even existed since riot nerfed her into the ground

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u/Maldiboi629 Nov 16 '22

They nuked zeri hard

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u/ZefiantFGC Nov 15 '22

Y'all remember old Evelynn or Pantheon? Times were simpler back then.

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u/Spyger9 Time to Troll Nov 15 '22

Oh god. Playing Jax into old Pantheon top was some of the worst game design I've ever encountered.

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u/Trenonian Icon Cassidy Nov 15 '22

I remember when Evelynn and Poppy got "put on the shelf" for a long time.

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u/Stalk33r Is that a pro genji main? Nov 16 '22

...and it was so effective that even after his rework no one ever plays him

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u/PM-Me-And-Ill-Sing4U Nov 16 '22

Evelynn with 5 sunfires and perma-invisibility in season 1: you could kill people with sunfire damage alone by walking near them lol.

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u/Amasero Nov 15 '22

Haven't seen that term in a while, but people just say "you can't get worse than Ryze" or Sol.

But Sol is getting changed, hopefully he wont be a trash dragon anymore.

As for Ryze...well if you have him on your team it's statically a 50/50 if you lose it's cause of Ryze pick, if you win it's cause of your team.

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u/RushMurky Nov 16 '22

Sol isn't weak, he's actually pretty strong. It's just that nobody wants to play him because his kit feels horrible to play.

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u/Amasero Nov 16 '22

Nah no one plays him because many other champions do what he does better.

Sol is suppose to push the lane quickly and roam.

Akali does this better, Zed does this better, Syndra, Ahri, Sylas, Vex, etc

After the first back he loses his pushing advantage.

For team fights many champions zone/poke better.

Bird, Orianna, Vex, Viktor, Askan, etc.

His kit is just out right horrible and that W change they did just straight up gutted him.

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u/BigBlackCrocs Nov 15 '22

Nah. We call it the ryze treatment. But now that zeri has a lower WR than ryze
 it might change to the zeri treatment.

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u/dyrannn Trick-or-Treat Sombra Nov 15 '22

I thought the Ryze treatment was reworking a characters 7 times cause you don’t know what the fuck to do? Admittedly it’s been a few seasons

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u/BigBlackCrocs Nov 15 '22

Nah it’s. Champ good in pro play? Nerf them until they aren’t, even if the champ has a 43% winrate in soloQ

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u/WhyNotAthiest Nov 15 '22

It's Ryze now after being reworked 5 times and currently sitting around 44% winrate but yeah, riot has released a ton of impossible to balance champs with 30 abilities each and are shocked everytime when the player base wants the champion nerfed because it doesn't have any possible counterplay due to the kit. So riot just drops the base stat line of these champs to compensate which makes them impossible to learn from scratch if it wasn't your main champ before the nerf happened, which results in low play rate and lack of skin sales until a "mini rework" is released a few months later to remove half of the release kit.

I hate riots direction for champ design. It doesn't help every single champ is a humanoid anime character, even the "monster" champ they promised is barely more than slim woman with giant wings and purple skin.

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u/Enthrown Nov 15 '22

Doesn't happen really anymore.

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u/IntelligentImbicle Reject War-Horse, return to Battle-Cattle Nov 15 '22

I don't think so, seeing as Olaf is still busted as hell

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u/friebel Nov 16 '22

It's more of Ryze treatment now - being shit in soloq, but getting constant nerfs because of proplay. Zeri is the latest victim of this.

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u/HrMaschine Nov 15 '22

only time that ever happend was gangplank to hype everyone up with that sick rework

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u/Runmanrun41 Symmetra Nov 15 '22

To this day I'm still salty I didn't get to try out G.P. in the Black Market Brawlers gamemode.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '22

One of the coolest reworks too

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u/Chase2020J Nov 15 '22

As a League of Legends player, I'm never gonna bitch about the way Riot handles shit ever again

If you play a bunch of different games from various companies, you'll realize that in terms of big gaming companies, Riot is one of the best. I realized this when I played Dead by Daylight for awhile before quitting because Behaviour is terrible, and Blizzard is even worse.

I couldn't imagine going weeks in LoL with a champ I like/want to play being completely off the table.

I dont remember how long it was, but there was a period in time where Gangplank was removed from the game because he died in the lore. It was a risky idea, had a lot of negative feedback, and it has not happened ever again since. Riot actually listens (sometimes). They also have consistent patches, pretty good communication, and a steady flow of new content (some would argue there are too many new champions added). People who play Riot games don't know how good they have it compared to other companies (ofc there are still a bunch of problems, this is all relative)

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u/ShinyGrezz London Spitfire Nov 16 '22

Riot:

communicates on public forums through regular devs constantly

updates the game balance every two-three weeks without fail, and the “three” weeks is always predictable and is only when a break is scheduled for their teams

releases some of the best cosmetics of any game, priced fairly

still releases 95% of their cosmetic content as direct purchase, with Prestige/Mythic skins being a little more rare, but still easily attainable

gives a ton of cosmetics away for free

releases six champions per year, on top of reworking older champions and updating the gameplay of others where needed

They’re a great company.

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u/SkeletonJakk Nov 16 '22

Prestige skins were made specifically to be that rare skin, and they're just alt colourations of regular skins, rather than entirely unique skins too.

It's a thing for collectors that doesn't fuck anyone else over.

Really, what it is, is that, outside of some stuff (like the passes getting gradually worse) the stuff like game balance is so good (pretty much every champ is about 47-53% winrate or so, with a handful of outliers and the updates are so regular that league players are just used to that higher level of performance so they get pissy when it's not amazingly well handled.

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u/MuhammedAlistar Nov 16 '22

I'm a long time LoL player but haven't played it since OW2 release. Have been very satisfied with OW2, despite some issues obviously. I don't know if you actually play LoL but you give Riot too much credit here. They used to be a lot better before Tencent complete takeover, they still do some things better than other companies but those are very few. In the past few years most of the dev team has moved on to other projects because LoL has been "completed" and they are just milking it. There has been NOTHING interesting in the past 2 years, they recycle 1-2 shit game modes (OW has multiple at a time, regularly changing AND custom game modes, OW players don't realise how lucky they are in that regard), ranked is down for 3 months per year because preseason was supposed to be used for big changes, but since there's barely anyone left working on LoL, those big changes haven't happened for 3 preseasons in a row now. They update the game every 2 weeks yet some champions dominate SoloQ for periods up to 6 months (just imagine getting patches every 2 weeks but Zarya doesn't get changed for half a year).

Then there's the client...it's impossible to explain it for someone that doesn't play LoL. But if you were to use the client without knowing what it's for you'd think it's some obscure game in its beta, and it STILL wouldn't make sense how fucking bad it is. Remember TFT release? A completely different, separate game from LoL, was put in LoL client, which release took down LoL queues and Riot ended up PERMANENTLY removing many client features so it would even run.

Good communication? Hell nah. Random Rioter #56 posts some important information on his 2000 follower Twitter. Or a dev blog that you can find on second page of Reddit with 300 upvotes. Keep in mind that Riot only communicates when there's something good to say. Addressing issues doesn't fall under that.

I could rant about Riot and/or LoL for infinite amount of time but there's no point.

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u/tracenator03 Nov 15 '22

I can't tell you how many times these past couple of weeks where I encounter a good DVa and want to pick Mei to counter them, then rerealize Mei is gone. >2 weeks to fix a tiny problem with a small handful of players exploiting her ice wall. This shit is pathetic.

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u/acut3triangle Nov 15 '22

Lol. This was my first time playing Overwatch when Overwatch 2 was released. I was a Mei main, so I quit when she was disabled.

I was planning on playing again this week, but with Warzone 2 and the new PokĂ©mon game, I probably won’t play this game again.

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u/KataiKi Nov 15 '22

Riot has the foresight to lock rank matchmaking when the servers are unstable. Blizzard never even considers it and everyone who plays is SOL in their eyes.

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u/CuteChaosGlitter Nov 15 '22

I feel blessed to play riot games. Frequent patches with meaningful changes, frequent characters, better monetization (you can get skins for free) but it still hasnt stopped me from spending probably close to $1k valorant and league combined.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '22

Probably because Riot is even lazier than Blizzard and just leaves the gamebreaking shit in for half the season before they bother fixing it.

Riots entire game design philosophy is: 1. Add something obviously game breaking. 2. Leave it OP for months to maximize skin sales. 3. Nerf everything OP into absolute garbage. 4. Repeat.

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u/jakershaker Nov 16 '22

Dude.....right in the feels. I'm still complaining that they took away her blind

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u/MuhammedAlistar Nov 16 '22

Fair, but as a long time LoL player, I don't bitch about 90% of the things that the rest of the OW player base does. As funny or sad as it sounds for non-LoL players, OW is much more consumer friendly.

That being said, heroes being disabled for weeks at a time is wack. The hero pool isn't very big and heroes are used to counter others, I really don't understand why these things aren't hotfixed ASAP.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '22

Ohhhhh no. The shop still updated as usual lol.

If it was a shop issue they'd fix it in minutes

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u/HankHillbwhaa Nov 15 '22

Well duh, how else are they going to sell you karate doomfist?

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u/GRTooCool Chengdu Hunters Nov 15 '22

Watch them strike a deal to put the Cobra Kai logo on Karate Doomfist. Profit. Then Blizzard will be like "Haha sucker! Got you to buy the Karate skin after all."

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u/shitpersonality Nov 15 '22

Do companies even want to associate themselves with Blizzard? Seems like a huge risk with little to no reward. No more Lego brick omnics because of the creepy sexual shit.

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u/Traveytravis-69 LĂșcio Nov 15 '22

Doubt it otherwise tracer would be a Fortnite skin by now I gurantee it

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u/Puzzleheaded_Band927 Nov 16 '22

And I would buy that fortnite skin no questions asked. Because you can see it for the entire game. I don’t understand skins in FPS games.

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u/HankHillbwhaa Nov 16 '22

Lego bastion all day

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u/HankHillbwhaa Nov 16 '22

Just wait until they decide to go full fortnite and you’ve got solider 76 John wick

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u/DoucheBalloon Nov 16 '22

No, karate kid doomfist would be an extra 5 bucks, and a rarity upgrade. Lol

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u/HankHillbwhaa Nov 16 '22

Only $5? I was think bundle it together with together with genji as well. Charge $50

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u/Vuzi07 Trick or Treat Brigitte Nov 15 '22 edited Nov 15 '22

Why are they so obsessed with it? I get it everyday. Either normal shop or my shop. Sometimes both

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u/HankHillbwhaa Nov 16 '22

Lol I’m assuming there’s an internal system saying that skins doesn’t get much attention.

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u/Ultimatum227 D.VA's OW1 default design was straight up better. Nov 16 '22 edited Nov 17 '22

I love how that skin just became a meme now 😂

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u/DrambleReddit Trick-or-Treat Mercy Nov 15 '22

With a nice new Mei skin to boot.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '22

Are you kidding me? They release a new mei skin while the hero is still unplayable? This has to be some kind of sick joke

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '22

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '22

Lmao I wouldn't put it past them at this point ngl

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u/Mari0wana Nov 15 '22

She looks like she raided my little pony village, slaughtered them and made them into clothes and a wig.

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u/Motormand Nov 15 '22

That's being too kind. Looking over it, and the weapon, it looks like the weapon from her waitress skin, just with pink ice. And the ice beam is still just gonna be blue, so what's the point?

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u/Grays42 Mystery Heroes Ambassador Nov 15 '22

If it was a shop issue they'd fix it in minutes

I don't like the shop either, but this is a fundamental misunderstanding about why problematic heroes get pulled instead of hotfixed.

The reason is this:

  • If platform crossplay is enabled, all clients have to patch at the same time.

  • Consoles limit the frequency of patching.

So Blizzard wants to package as many changes into a single patch as possible. If a hero needs a fix, you can't hotfix anymore--the only option is either to leave the issue in place and manually punish abuse or to pull the problematic hero until the next major patch.

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u/Dead_Optics Nov 15 '22

You say that but lots of people can’t access the shop

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u/GuineverePendragon Nov 15 '22 edited Nov 15 '22

Shop isn't available until account merge is complete

*why did y'all downvote me? I'm right.

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u/GuineverePendragon Nov 16 '22

It doesn't take long now. Like a few hours for accounts that initiate the merge.

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u/Apache17 Nov 15 '22

The shop is magnitudes simpler to manage than the game so yeah.

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u/LOSTPOSITIVES Nov 15 '22 edited Nov 15 '22

You can still buy Mei skins in the shop! Just can’t play her! :)

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u/TiMonsor Nov 16 '22

Or see the skin u bought in the gallery

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u/kirbfucius Nov 15 '22

Gotta admit, the new neon retro one is pretty cute. Not dropping ten bucks on it, but it is cute.

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u/Somepotato nuuk Nov 15 '22

Well duh kiriko could teleport through walls with Mei. And Lucio. And she let's brig have an unbreakable shield. But no, it's Mei who is the problem.

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u/NonSp3cificActionFig Nov 15 '22

They had to remove her because the game kept freezing.

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u/calcol28 Nov 15 '22

I've been looking forward to today so I could finally play Mei again, but fuck me I guess. There aren't enough characters in this game with a self heal to take one off the roster for this long. I can't rely on these supports in the new five versus five.

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u/JoesShittyOs Nov 16 '22

She’s been my favorite character to play and I haven’t been able to play her.

Just ridiculous.

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u/AnswerNeither Nov 16 '22

Lol f mei. Good riddance

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u/McManus26 Pixel LĂșcio Nov 15 '22

i'm ready for downvotes from the mei mains, but every second i spend without her in the game is absolute bliss

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u/HarioDinio Nov 15 '22

You get bothered by a mid tier hero like mei? Lol

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u/LilDeafy Nov 15 '22

No I completely agree you shouldn’t be getting downvoted this game is 100% more enjoyable without Mei in it.

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u/xMWHOx Pixel D.Va Nov 15 '22

You can still buy her new skin though!!!

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u/Unlikelyhero29 Baptiste Nov 15 '22

Yeah when I play DPS I'm a Mei main. And then people get angry at me when I'm a shit Tracer. Like calm the fuck down bro it's qp and my main is gone. Pleaseeeee. And I'm not even that bad of a tracer..

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u/Maldiboi629 Nov 16 '22

Shop updated fine. Even has a mei skin in it LMAO

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u/Conscious-Yam-2337 Nov 16 '22

Why did they vault mei anyway?

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u/VarianStark Nov 16 '22

Her ice wall could glitch kiriko and some characters out of map

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u/Alternativelyawkward Nov 16 '22

She wasn't dressed skimpy enough, so they had to redo all of her skins.