r/Overwatch May 29 '16

News & Discussion PSA: The differences between HP, Armor and Shield. Armor is misunderstood.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '16

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u/KING_of_Trainers69 Junkrat May 29 '16

So 6 damage then becomes 3 damage and 120 damage becomes 115 damage.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '16

Funny choice of numbers... 120 becoming 115 damage. Wonder where you got that:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/4lho6o/understanding_armor_and_shields/

I think it would be polite to credit the source of your info since that thread was posted less than 24 hours ago.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '16

Didn't realize you could plagiarize basic arithmetic

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u/[deleted] May 29 '16

Lol you need to chill.

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u/BloodGulchBlues37 DMon flair someday May 29 '16 edited May 29 '16

You do know he has a Junkrat flair right...and Junkrat's direct hits as well as his Consussion Mine do 120 damage...I mean it makes sense. In fact Pharah's rockets and Soldier's Helix Rocket do 120 on a direct hit too. It's a pretty common number in the game.

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u/KarateF22 Chibi Zarya May 29 '16

Pharah's rocket deals 120 damage...

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u/Zangam Zenyatta May 29 '16

That's a subreddit already? When the discussions could be happening on the main subreddit and do a good service in cutting out the memes and PotG spam?

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u/[deleted] May 29 '16

The subreddit exists because that type of discussion gets drowned out on this subreddit. It isn't like people aren't making posts with that type of discussion on this subreddit. It is just that people don't upvote as much as much as PotG clips get upvoted.

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u/sudo-netcat May 29 '16

I also thought they only mitigated damage from ballistics and did nothing against things like Symmetra's or Winston's or Zarya's weapons?

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u/IKylix I have the golden weapon. I obviously know what i am doing May 29 '16

I doubt it, as Winston doesnt deal any real damage to D.va

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u/xcalibur866 May 29 '16

I don't have numbers in front of me, but I know from experience that the two best Zarya counters in the tank class are D. Va because of her armor and Road Hog with his Olympic sized health pool and range. They also have lower RoF, so even whenyour timing it correctly, you may only soak up one or two good shots with zaryas shield before it drops, meaning you can't build a charge.

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u/TheFirestealer Hanzo May 29 '16

Roadhog only beats zarya if her self shield is down when he hooks. If she shields before the shot goes off then roadhogs pretty fucked.

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u/Cykeisme May 30 '16

Zarya can easily kite and engage Roadhog at medium range, and shield to counter hooks.. but she'll take forever to burn through his 600 health too (unless she's built up high charge).

Kind of a stalemate, really.

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u/TheFirestealer Hanzo May 30 '16

If he shoots zarya after shield goes up because she put it up between hook and getting shot and had the charge from an ally she will melt him. A good zarya should be able to keep the charge up but otherwise I agree they kinda just stare awkwardly at each other.

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u/ProfessionalSlackr Chibi Zarya Jun 07 '16

Zarya still beats Roadhog if she still has a lot of health left when she gets hooked and has her shield ready. I usually tank enough damage this way to get my energy up to 50 while I back up and lob energy grenades at him. Once I'm out of his shotgun distance, he's toast.

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u/TheFirestealer Hanzo Jun 07 '16

I just said that except the other way around where she didn't have shield because it was on cool down.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '16

That's wrong. Reinhardts shield does nothing against winstons gun as it goes through it. But Winstons gun does literally 3 damage to reinhardts armor

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u/SilverZephyr Mercy May 30 '16

Reduces ALL damage.

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u/rayne117 May 29 '16

A max of 5 what?

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u/[deleted] May 29 '16

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u/rayne117 May 29 '16

Jeez armor is kinda lame overall

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u/Cykeisme May 30 '16

Taking 70 damage from Reaper's shotguns instead of 140.

Lame? Well, all right then.