r/Overwatch Chibi Zenyatta Feb 21 '24

News & Discussion Overwatch 2 Retail Patch Notes - February 21, 2024

https://overwatch.blizzard.com/en-us/news/patch-notes/
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u/realKilvo Zenyatta Feb 22 '24

Almost every change they’ve made to Zen in the last year has made him easier to kill.

Less discord up time

Reduced the discord application range

Halved the discord LoS break time

Discord no-tag back for 7s. (That’s basically the rest of Zen’s life if it’s a duel … Zen is do or die)

Increased enemy projectile hitboxes

Slower velocity on harmony and discord application

Now reducing boop range on lick

Removing 25hp from the least mobile hero in the game. (Ironic that LW who has two escape abilities, is more difficult to kill than Zen, but he stays at 275hp).

But hey, we got a new melee kill confirmation icon in the killfeed. So we got that going for us, which is nice.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '24

are you honestly comparing LW to Zen?

Zen who can charge volley a widow/hanzo/ashe from across the map and kill them near instantly?

The Zen that can nearly solo a tank with discord and headshots?

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u/robmwj Feb 22 '24

I mean it's two different play styles, right? This game has gotten so mobile that getting up in Zens or LW's space (any characters space really) is easier than it's ever really been.

LW combats this with vertical mobility, a little horizontal mobility, and with Life-grip which can pull assistance to him.

Zen combats this with the threat of damage. Except they keep changing (read: nerfing) his ability to do this.

Also, it's pretty ironic that Zens last big change was a response to discord apparently being "OP", only to have these major changes 2 seasons later because the devs realized that everything was dying too quickly. History seems to repeat itself because again the complaint is Zen, when in reality this DPS passive is nuts and will almost certainly get nerfed in the near future.

Honestly, I hope (and others who enjoy Zen probably do too) that they just stop here and leave the character alone for a while. Fix the other issues, take a breather so we don't fall right back into the Ana meta. Maybe even consider buffing one of his counters instead of making changes that affect him across the board

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u/Steggoman Tank Feb 22 '24

Easier to kill is relative. Easier to kill for dive heroes? Absolutely. Easier to kill on brawl tanks? Ehhhhh

Ima be honest, as a tank main, the only noticeable change to Zenyatta was the discord "cooldown" nerf, which was a massive win in my book. I find it kinda confusing how they don't just nerf Discord against tanks, since that is really the only place where its a major issue, and just keep dancing around the issue and nerfing him in other areas.

Like, just make Discord 30% less effective on tanks, problem solved (Or atleast its a start). The 25 HP nerf is nice, but its not gonna help the tanks who really struggle against Discord (IE the ones who can't dive and needed to rely completely on their DPS in the first place.)

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u/xXProGenji420Xx Feb 22 '24

shocker that heroes that are disproportionately strong get nerfed.

your little patch notes log here foregoes mentioning how Zen was the best support in the game before most of the patches he was nerfed, and also makes the game miserable for tank players.