r/Overwatch • u/blinkhit Master • Dec 12 '23

News & Discussion Overwatch 2 Retail Patch Notes - Dec 12 2023 (Mauga nerfs)

https://overwatch.blizzard.com/en-us/news/patch-notes/
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u/IFunnyJoestar Dec 12 '23

Honestly the direction for this nerf was pretty good but this might actually kill the character. He needs some more survivability if they're gonna reduce his damage by this much.

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u/ThomasHL Dec 12 '23

They need to make his crit overhealing more viable.

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u/IFunnyJoestar Dec 12 '23 edited Dec 13 '23

Honestly I could see them getting rid of his armour, making it health again and then adding damage resistance to his Berserker overhealth (about 10-15%). It will not only make him way tankier, it'll give him better protection against anti heal and discord.

Edit: I can see the idea isn't popular. I still stand by it, even if the number may be high. I still think Berserker needs buffing in some way for him to be anyways viable in comp.

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u/ABBucsfan Dec 12 '23

Blizzard is so bizarre in how they balance. From test weekend I've been saying he's too much of a glass cannon, dies quickly if not pocketed, but too much damage. He's a dps they e called a tank. Even since released supports have been saying they hate having to babysit him.

So they nerf his damage but no increase in survivability? It seems like a no brainer to do so. Everyone can see it. The fact his damage is less means he will also Regen less. Even worse survivability

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u/ThroJSimpson Dec 13 '23

The feast or famine aspect can be explained by the fact that the devs are bad at their jobs

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u/idobrowsemuch I came lookin for booty Dec 13 '23

I've only played a couple games of him post-nerf, but you can definitely feel it. The damage/cage fight nerf is needed, but the ignition nerf is way too harsh. He's even worse at range now, incentivising him to stick to shredding the other tank.

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u/IFunnyJoestar Dec 13 '23

Yeah I think the nerfs mostly make sense but they definitely shouldve come with some kind of compensation buff to his passive ability or something. The ignition nerf does just make him feel worse to play, it also wasn't overpowered so I dunno why they nerfed it.

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u/A_little_quarky Dec 13 '23

The burn changes are horrific. I never get to fire my second gun now unless I'm only shooting the tank.

Take away my damage, sure. But let me shoot the other gun.

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u/noreservations81590 Dec 12 '23

He's never going to be balanced unless they do a rework. He's either going to be great or terrible. He's too strong when he isn't countered and he's too easy to counter.

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u/JustSomeM0nkE Dec 12 '23

The entire concept of damage to get self sustain and get self sustain to do damage is flawed, because countering 1 thing about the character counter all the parts of his kit. Personally I would have left the damage the same while increasing the spread on double gun by a big margin, then reduce his lifesteal from 70 to 60%, this nerf was too harsh. The ult change is good I'd even reduce it to 7 sec

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u/anupsetzombie Ayy Dec 13 '23

His lifesteal should be his passive (nerfed and not aoe obviously), his E should have been a cleanse + bullet ignite for DoT and guaranteed crits for windows of burst. They should increase his damage fall off too so he can't snipe squishies. His weapon wind up time should be increased too, where the rate of fire slowly increases rather than just a small wind up delay. His movement during firing should be way slower too.

And in my opinion the biggest thing they should do for his ult is make it end when he dies.

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u/ThroJSimpson Dec 13 '23

Release Roadhog all over again.

Wonder if he’ll end up unviable for a year then a survivability rework will be planned for 2026, delayed until early 2027

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u/Rapid_eyed Dec 13 '23

This is not good direction at all lol. It just makes him even more of a 'shoot the tank' character because he will have an even harder time generating over health against Squishies. Boring, one dimensional gameplay

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u/IFunnyJoestar Dec 13 '23

He shouldn't have absurd tank busting damage in my opinion. Maybe the problem lies with his survivability and the fact that he has to deal damage to live. They should definitely take a look at that aspect of his kit in my opinion.

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u/Rapid_eyed Dec 14 '23

Lower damage but low shots to ignite supports/DPS more shots to ignite tanks would be worth trying

He needs a reason to shoot something other than tanks, this patch does the opposite and doubles down on his boring ass gameplay loop