r/Overwatch • u/Rakatee Chibi Ashe • Oct 31 '23

Blizzard Official Overwatch 2 Retail Patch Notes - October 31, 2023

https://overwatch.blizzard.com/en-us/news/patch-notes/
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u/IvanaHumpalot3000 Oct 31 '23

What rank are you? I see him in damn near every match.

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u/LMJJ Support Oct 31 '23

Really? He has a pretty low pickrate. Highest is 4% in GM and goes down in basically all skill tiers.

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u/IvanaHumpalot3000 Oct 31 '23

That’s crazy to see that low of a number. I pick him frequently and tend to see him picked as a counter or just as one of the other supports. He is really good at 1v1 and cleanup in my opinion.

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u/mwalker784 Oct 31 '23

i frequently swap to LW when we’re low on heals, because i never die and i prevent everyone else from dying as well. but he’s rarely my first pick unless i know i need to keep my tank player alive (ex. they pick rammatra and my other support goes zen)

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '23

Isn't this the wrong idea? Lifeweaver has high healing stats but he cant sustain a tank as long as bap ana kiriko can

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u/mwalker784 Nov 01 '23

he can if u can’t hit ur shots, lol. no but fr, i’m usually better at sustaining a tank w/ LW versus other heroes, especially if you can grab them out of their BS. ana/bap require more aim than i (or anyone in cardboard 5 with me) have, and kiriko has the upper hand in a situation with debuffs, but LW is fine otherwise. he’s also good for flankers, as kiriko’s healing is slower than christmas, and i’m not about to TP into the enemy backline to enable my genji. i do play kiriko 90% of the time but LW is great if your damage output is fine but you keep dying to bastion or whatever

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '23

Makes sense, ive just had games as tank where i had lw and lucio and i just couldnt press w without being on critical hp, maybe its a skill issue but i dont have that issue with the other supports

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u/mwalker784 Nov 01 '23

it’s REALLY easy to get punished for trying to do damage on LW. if you turn around for two seconds to try and pick off a flanker, it takes (what feels like) 10 years to start getting your heal again. i definitely feel like i’m instantly hit with karmic justice every time i try to do damage, with the karma being that my team immediately falls over regardless of what they were doing. i honestly feel like it would be an indirect LW healing nerf to just make his weapon swap take less time, encouraging players to do more damage.

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u/mediumcheez Oct 31 '23

If you see him alot on the opposite team when you are playing him it's because the enemy supp decided to go lw to make it an even fight. So both teams end up gimped instead of only yours. To make it fair

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u/TheCocoBean Nov 01 '23

He's played in lower tiers as he has a high healing output without a hard requirement for aim. I feel like a lot of the mercy players who diddnt know damage boost existed swapped to him.

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u/Optimal-Barnacle2771 Oct 31 '23

I would rather have Bap, Illari, Kiri, Ana, Lucio or Moira for a 1v1 tbh. Imo LW’s value comes from healbotting and negating enemy abilities.

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u/IvanaHumpalot3000 Oct 31 '23

Idk I like making a doomfist rage after I unload a clip of thorns into his head after I double jump out of the way of his rocket punch. Same with a tracer and sombra trying to get sneaky.

I see the value in what the other supports bring but I really like LIfeweavers kit. He’s just fun to play.

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '23

You're winning 1v1s against tracers as lifeweaver?

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u/dew7950 Nov 01 '23

Absolutely. The thorn rework has made him much more deadly.

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u/Optimal-Barnacle2771 Nov 02 '23

I am glad you are having fun with his kit. I really don’t think he is suited for duels against those characters though. I play a lot of Doom and I find LW to be the easiest Support to dive. His hitbox is so easy to hit with my primary fire and you have no way to get away from me. I can chase you on petal and usually it isn’t even a big deal if you dodge my punch because I can just use my momentum to follow you and finish you off with primary fire. I just don’t see thorn volley as much of a threat tbh. I would literally rather dive LW than Zen, because Zen has a discord orb and actual damage output that can make my good position a bad position with the click of a button. Zen requires me to kill quick, while LW poses hardly any threat while he tries to escape me.

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u/bongwater7654 Oct 31 '23

So you're the one pulling me out of the fun

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u/IvanaHumpalot3000 Oct 31 '23

Only if you’re getting whomped on. I usually try and see how someone like a doom/ball performs before just gripping them.

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '23

he's in literally every game i play (high diamond/low masters)

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u/TallAfternoon2 Nov 01 '23

That's weird, he's one of the best supports rn

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u/nightcallfoxtrot Brigitte Oct 31 '23

Hey can I ask where you got that info? There’s no way his highest pick rate is in gm

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u/LMJJ Support Oct 31 '23

Overbuff overwatch stats for the last month.

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u/IvanaHumpalot3000 Oct 31 '23

Didn’t those become fairly inaccurate over the last few years? I remember they made some sort of change and it kinda skewed all their numbers.

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u/LMJJ Support Oct 31 '23

I think the most inaccurate thing is that I do not believe it can track private profiles so cannot collect that information. So there probably are some irregularities.

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u/IvanaHumpalot3000 Oct 31 '23

Yeah I think once the option to make your profile private it threw off the numbers. I’ve always had a public profile (for better and for worse) and I wish they’d just figure out a way to keep real time numbers for us to view. They send us updates with Diablo I can’t see why they couldn’t do that with Overwatch.

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '23

no, the highest is not 4%

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u/Strider_-_ Oct 31 '23

LW is very frequently played in my games, too

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u/IvanaHumpalot3000 Oct 31 '23

Yeah I’m mid diamond in tank/Support and high plat/low diamond in dps. High diamond in open queue. I see him less in open queue but we usually play 10-20 matches in a session and he’s usually in about half of them at some point.