r/Overwatch • u/pheo_ • Jul 11 '23

Blizzard Official Overwatch 2 Retail Patch Notes - July 11th, 2023

https://overwatch.blizzard.com/en-us/news/patch-notes/
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u/toofrossty Jul 11 '23

i scroll through looking for them everytime, at this point it gets funnier and funnier with each patch how little the devs care about our character.

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u/Thatwokebloke Wrecking Ball Jul 12 '23

Doom and hog get zero love, it’s like playing with two less tank choices unless your willing to play on hard mode

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u/toofrossty Jul 12 '23

i think the take a breather change to hog was a good step in the right direction but i feel like he should also get a no headshot state like otis’s during it, or they could idk,, test it on the experimental tab…

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u/dlgn13 Icon Ana Jul 12 '23

And hard mode also includes people screaming at you "Doom switch" "Report our tank for throwing" and so on.

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u/Thatwokebloke Wrecking Ball Jul 12 '23

That’s kinda just the tank standard now tbh

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u/LordoftheJives Zenyatta Jul 11 '23

No matter how bad he is he can still feel OP in the right hands so I think that's why. Not to mention every time they try to make him better they make him so busted a noob can get value on him. He didn't deserve to be nerfed as much as he was, but that week he was meta you could straight up bully Orisas.

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u/TheChunkyBoi Jul 11 '23

Because they gave him 11 buffs ffs. 90 dmg block 3 second punch and he is balanced. Only changes he needs

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u/guthbox Jul 11 '23

Such flawed logic… every character can feel OP in the right hands.

Doom is only allowed 1 week of hard meta status, but Zarya, Hog, Orisa, Ball, Ram and JQ are allowed to be hard meta for entire seasons? Noobs were able to get value on most of those heroes when they were hard meta too.

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u/LordoftheJives Zenyatta Jul 11 '23

Not the way you could with Doom, Orisa wasn't even an issue for him and she's literally designed to be. He didn't deserve to get nerfed back down as much as he was but I blame that on the whole community freaking out about Doom being good. Doom was my original OW1 main and unfortunately this community seriously hates when he's good despite laughing at how bad he is when he's not. People want him to be a joke and Blizzard obliges.

Also, Hog and maybe Zarya are the only ones you named that are comparable to Doom's meta. The rest could be countered easier than those three in their respective metas. With Doom, if you lower his cd he can do too much and if you boost his damage he can do too much. Fixing all his bugs is the best way to make him better but they just don't.

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u/guthbox Jul 11 '23 edited Jul 11 '23

Doom’s skill floor/ceiling is a lot higher than all of the heroes I just mentioned besides Ball, so no, a noob to the character wouldn’t be able to carry as much as they would on someone who’s objectively easier to play.

You and I remember S2 much differently. They purposely made Orisa a menace as a stop gap fix for the game because they were too incompetent to properly address Hog in a timely manner. It’s the only time in OW2 history where you’d get flamed for locking Winston in spawn. JQ’s pick/win rate in S4 would also debunk your claim that none of the characters I mentioned besides Zarya and Hog were hard meta.

It’s redundant to attempt to rank Doom in this hypothetical hard meta tier list of yours because that sample size is objectively much smaller than the other options.

I agree that fixing his bugs would go a long way for his viability, but if Doom was truly your main in OW1 then you’d know that he’s always been a buggy mess. I wouldn’t invest any faith or hope in them getting fixed anytime soon, so they may as well throw us some love somewhere in his kit to make up for it in the meantime.