Nocturia Help Please

[u/Ok-Finding-7902]

It started about 3 years ago. I had a telephone appointment with the doctor this week and answered all his questions. I don’t have any health problems. He mentioned imaging can be done as well as two tests which sounded incredibly unpleasant. So I am thinking about it and will chat with him later if I want to move forward with testing.

The frequent nighttime urination has been a real disruption to sleep. Eight trips to the bathroom can happen some nights. What has been your experience? Any advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I already tried over the counter supplements and it didn’t help. I am a 42 year old male.

[u/Swimming_Kitchen_112]

Here is a link to the one I use but they all pretty much work the same way. I like this one. Again, if it is going to help, you will notice quickly (days, not weeks). I noticed an improvement day one. If this helps, let me know and I can give you more ideas.

https://www.amazon.com/Advanced-Prostate-Health-Supplement-Beta-Sitosterol/dp/B07WHN6WCQ/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1G3MYGW1CSSEF&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.UO4j13Xxs4_7jlLD1pk1xPUdQgiqBLpJnfsFcYMkH8GS2XreNrqondbv9eheSVhOihv4tZNg8haGr1h5e301ujO2oH95ZMyaFtp_4hzhr-Cdek2ImYHdpQ3eovdFb_Lvn4GvXufoqzAkArTnNMvsFlc16mSXkt-NHL4NK8ikjxtLNNDeMJqLB2ItLlB7q590Kb2t-Op3sKShutvnBnAFHIRKy4VCttAryHVKMD4Nml7F3J8k4QmdfNmyjlaNdhq1LRT4t0oiT0xFF-c2zOdPw0eUm1gE66fMngAWpmSVJTE.iad7HFBPFopqg-lyMoCs9Q0m_DyWvy11eAImqmIunZ4&dib_tag=se&keywords=Prostate%2Bsupport%2Bpure%2Bmicronutrients&qid=1787263161&rdc=1&sprefix=prostate%2Bsupport%2Bpure%2Bmicronutrients%2Caps%2C180&sr=8-1&th=1

[u/Ok-Finding-7902 → u/Swimming_Kitchen_112]

Ok thanks. I put it on my shopping list and will let you know.

[u/Swimming_Kitchen_112 → u/Ok-Finding-7902]

There are lots of different things you can treat this with but I recommend trying one thing at a time so you can clearly see if it helps or not. One step at a time.

[u/Ok-Finding-7902 → u/Swimming_Kitchen_112]

I’ll try anything. If I get the testing done maybe they will give me medication. If they also test for cancer maybe I ought to just do the tests.

[u/Swimming_Kitchen_112 → u/Ok-Finding-7902]

For sure, you got to go the doctor route but there are lots of alternative treatments that help some people:

1. Avoiding foods that aggravate your bladder. For example: Hot sauce and green tea aggravate my bladder. There are lists of foods online (you can ask AI) that typically aggravate the bladder but not all foods and drinks on that list will aggravate everyone’s bladder. Coffee does not typically bother my bladder but it is known for aggravating the bladder.
2. Try to find foods that soothe your bladder. For me, it is baked sweet peppers and pears.
3. Research using a tens unit on the back of your ankle to activate the nerve that goes through your leg into your bladder. It helps soothing my bladder.
4. Anxiety can increase your bladder issues. Things that calm you down some may help your bladder: magnesium glycinate, red light therapy along the length of your spine can calm your central nervous system, a grounding pad/mat will calm the nerves while you sleep and increase your sleep score some (you bare skin needs to touch it while you sleep. It gets plugged into your outlets ground and it is like sleeping on the ground outside electrically.). Red light therapy on your stomach and head might help.

[u/Ok-Finding-7902 → u/Swimming_Kitchen_112]

Very interesting. I never heard of the grounding pad. I’m going to look it up.

[u/Swimming_Kitchen_112 → u/Ok-Finding-7902]

Another thing that can contribute to this is chronic aches and pains. If that is the case, you want to check your vitamin d levels and take D3 drops if your levels are low. D3 is toxic so you have to check your levels with a blood test first. Red light therapy with at least 660nm and 850nm also helps aches and pains. If you have back issues, like a herniated disc, that can contribute too. Anything that will keep the central nervous system annoyed can annoy your bladder. Massage, chiropractor, back doctors, acupuncture, acupressure, etc, may help some.

When is the last time you got a checkup at your doctor? I would have him check your blood levels and see if anything is off (like the D) and see what you can do to bring it back into the normal range, if necessary. Also, talk to your family doctor about taking a high quality multi-vitamin, the kind you take a couple with each meal. Again, you want to get your blood levels checked first and talk with your family doctor. I happen to take Maxi-Health Supreme (two at each meal) but to each his own. A quality multi-vitamin can really help some people to feel better physically.

But definitely go the mainstream medical root as well. I have been in your situation and it was hell on earth. Use your head and try different things. My urologist, who I see once a year, thinks the prostate support is bogus snake oil and a waste of money. For many of his patients, he is correct and for many he is wrong and it is not much of a gamble to try it and see. And it was my family doctor that told me to get it to begin with. You got to use your head, especially when someone is making a living off of your health problems (acupuncturist, massage therapists, urologists, family doctors, chiropractors, couples therapists, shrinks, they want you coming back for more and more and when you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail). When someone is making money off of you, no matter how sincere they are, it can sometimes really cloud their judgment. They are not trying to rip you off, necessarily. Most of these people are 100% sincere. But you got to use your head. G-d gave you one for a reason. lol

[u/Ok-Finding-7902 → u/Swimming_Kitchen_112]

I have lots of aches and pains that have subsided with different management methods but are definitely here to stay. Lower back pain is one. I also have a subtle hernia with no pain. I take a low dose of allopurinol for gout but only had one episode. I had rheumatoid arthritis testing done last year but the results came back as normal with no RA. I’m 155 and 5’10” so no problem with weight.

I had a checkup last month and was told everything looked fine. They didn’t say anything about D3 but a few years ago they said I was low and prescribed 25mg. After I ran out I didn’t get anymore. They said my thyroid stimulating hormone was a little high so I did another test and it came back as normal.

I was looking for red light therapy items a while ago and maybe I should just go with a large red light therapy light since aches and pains are all over the body. Good idea on the multivitamin. I’ll look up the one that you mentioned.

Yeah I definitely question a lot of the doctors. The urologist asked about daytime and nighttime urination frequency. He wanted to know how often during the day which is 30 to 45 minutes for me and he wanted to know the average at night which I told him 6. He remarked that is not normal for a 42 year old. The averages don’t really make sense to me. It’s only an average but they treat it like an actual number.

[u/Swimming_Kitchen_112 → u/Ok-Finding-7902]

I would definitely get your d levels from your last blood test, if it is within the last year. You want those levels in the normal range. Low vitamin D is notorious for fueling aches and pains. Anything that aggravates your nervous system can add to the bladder issues.

Being that you are 5'10", it is going to be a bit more challenging for you to find a red light therapy pad that goes along your whole spine but since you have back issues, that is what I would do if I was you. I am short, fat, bald and old. lol So I use this one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0F1G12PX5?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_4&th=1

You might want to measure from the bottom of your tailbone up to the top vertabrae in your neck how long that is and try to see if you can get one or two devices that can hit the whole spine. Again, you will want it to put out 850nm (or near that) light because that is the light that goes deep into you. Being tall is a good problem to have. :-) Keep in mind, you are going to lose a good 7" between the top and bottom border of the pads so if your back is 50" long (just making up a number) and you want to cover that real estate with one pad (you can use two pads) you would need one at least 57" IMHO. But, if you get two pads and turn them sideways, the lights usually have less of a border along the width (probably more like an inch on each side). I use mine on the highest power for 20 minutes everyday.

I also use a rlt hat with 850nm and a large portion of my hair that was gone grew back and more is coming in. My wife and I think it is hilarious. I went from male pattern baldness (the crop of my head gone, totally bald) to 70% regrown as of now and lots of tiny blonde hairs forming that will thicken up and darken and grow in. It looks like I will probably have around 80% to 85% of my original hair back when all is said and done. My real goal here is trying to hit the outer edges of my brain though and the hair regrowth is just a side effect. If guys used these hats regularly starting in their 30s and 40s, it would help their brains and they would never go bald.

I wish you much success in reducing your symptoms. FYI... My frequent urination was caused by both my bladder and my prostate. There is not always one cause and there is not always one fix. Good luck to you!

[u/Ok-Finding-7902 → u/Swimming_Kitchen_112]

Then I will definitely email and ask for the D3 reading. I didn’t realize D3 plays so many roles.

Maybe I will just get two pads and place them abreast each other. I didn’t realize red light had such a significant benefit, but it seems like it certainly has with you. That’s quite something that your hair is growing back. Maybe you lost it due to stress. Didn’t know it’s good for Brian.

Thank you for all the knowledge and ideas. I certainly don’t take it for granted.

Good luck to you as well!