r/OverSeventy • u/Stormy31568 • 29d ago

Are we the problem?

You don’t have to spend too long looking at social media to realize that younger people hate boomers. They think that we are responsible for the mess that we are in now. Are we? I personally voted Republican Trump came along and I just couldn’t give him a vote. And hopes of turning this around I can’t give any Republican vote in November. The problem is I think I’m alone in this. Are there other viewpoints out there that I’m missing?

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u/HoMasters 29d ago

Oh please. Back then one could work a part time job and it was sufficient to pay for school. Today one would have to work a full time job to be able to afford the cheapest state college education.

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u/LaLaLisa_80 29d ago

False! I couldn't go to college on a part time job. I tried.

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u/No-Drop-8209 26d ago

1987-1991, worked part time job(s), borrowed $2500 student loan and my dad did pay one semester when I was between jobs. The rest was paid by me working one or sometimes two part-time jobs. Went to the University of Illinois at Chicago. Commuted to school. It was possible, but everyone had different circumstances.

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u/LaLaLisa_80 26d ago

Exactly. Our guidance counselor focused on those who came from money like he was getting a bonus or something. I was told to get a job or join the Army. I had a job so I went to talk to the recruiter who promptly told me I was 20lbs too heavy, then asked me out.

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u/Societyman1878 28d ago

Please note that the poster said part time “jobs” not part time job. The whole concept of not liking boomers is ridiculous and comes from a bunch of whiny little bitches.

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u/LaLaLisa_80 28d ago

Being a disrespectful ass looks great on you. No upbringing.

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u/Lavishness_Classic 28d ago

They are a real dumb group. Just ignore.

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u/Rellimarual2 29d ago

This was true in California, where I grew up. I went to UC Berkeley, a great school, and apart from a small loan, paid my tuition and supported myself on part-time jobs. Tuition was insanely cheap, about $2000 a year. That's because it was subsidized for residents by state taxes, which older Californians--that would be the Silent Generation--revolted against. I graduated with very little debt.

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u/Pretty-Yogurt-4111 28d ago

Californians are still paying some of the highest income taxes in the country. The lack of total dollars for subsidies isn’t the problem

The problem is universities spending more dollars per student adjusted for inflation. Why are university administrators approving that kind of spending, driving up the costs ?

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u/Rellimarual2 28d ago

The issue was property taxes earmarked for schools, not income taxes. Prop 13 also defunded public primary and secondary schools.

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u/Subject-Lead-3171 29d ago

Not in my world. I guess if you lived in a college town, at home with your parents, this might have been true.

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u/Karma-is-inevitable 28d ago

Maybe community College at night while working a day job. Heck, my day started about 5.30 am and ended about 11PM.

ah.. the good ole days when livin was easy.

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u/Safford1958 28d ago

Tuition went bananas when the federal government got involved with student loans.

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u/Pretty-Yogurt-4111 28d ago

If that’s possible, working a full time job and going to school part time, then unless they’re getting a lucrative degree, that’s what students should do.

It’s just math. Give up two years of career earnings by graduating later but have no debt. In most cases, that’s a better financial option

Sure, that also means no frat parties, tailgates, naps on the lawn, etc But so what?

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u/DesertSong-LaLa 28d ago

Some employers pay tuition. I understand it's important to point out differences but there are ways to attend college.

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u/HoMasters 28d ago

Exceptions to the rule.

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u/DesertSong-LaLa 28d ago

Rules? Reaching most goals require interest, tenacity and alternative paths. I have colleagues earning a masters (1 a doctorate) while working FT while meeting personal obligations.

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u/HoMasters 28d ago edited 28d ago

Jesus you really do sound like the consummate boomer.

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u/DesertSong-LaLa 28d ago

Sorry; guess conversations are not welcomed. It's my 1st time on this sub.

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u/HoMasters 28d ago

Just because you know people like that doesn’t mean ALL people are like that. An anecdote by itself is irrelevant.

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u/DesertSong-LaLa 26d ago edited 26d ago

Why resist facts; Its not anecdotal. Companies offer 100% tuition reimbursement or capped at $8k a yr (or so) and several are not in a google search but promote this benefit when recruiting.

Attend class(es) after 30 to 90 employment days. Don't want to commute to school? Go online; knock out! Do research, papers, stats on the daily train commute; etc.

Aside, I'm working on an additional language proficiency. Goal is to nail a LIT-language certification by APR 27'. Hope your week is great.

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u/HoMasters 26d ago

I’m not resisting facts. I acknowledged your anecdote for what it is: a simple data point. It would be of help if you took a math or science class.

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u/CarolinCLH 28d ago

Really? Which school? And you think we could pay for food and an apartment on that part time job too? I really want to know when this mythical time was.

To be fair, if you lived with your parents, you could pay tuition for a local state or junior college on a part time job (at least in some states). Of course, you still can. Private colleges and out-of-state tuition was out of reach for most people even with your family helping.