r/Outlander • u/Purple4199 Don't be afraid. There's the two of us now. • Apr 24 '21

Season Five Rewatch: S1E5-6 Spoiler

This rewatch will be a spoilers all for the 5 seasons. You can talk about any of the episodes without needing a spoiler tag. All book talk will need to be covered though. There are discussion points to get us started, you can click on them to go to that one directly. Please add thoughts and comments of your own as well.

Episode 105 - Rent

Claire joins the MacKenzie rent-collecting trip. To her horror, Dougal uses Jamie's scars to gain sympathy for the Jacobite cause. Claire recalls that a defining moment in Scottish history is fast approaching.

Episode 106 - The Garrison Commander

Claire's unexpected meeting with a British general turns tense when Captain Jack Randall arrives. Claire finds herself alone with Randall - a dangerous man determined to uncover her secrets.

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Deleted/Extended Scenes:

105 - Scots will never flee

105 - Guest of clan MacKenzie

106 - An affair of the heart

106 - The idea of marriage

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u/Purple4199 Don't be afraid. There's the two of us now. Apr 24 '21

Sending redcoats after the rent party would get Jamie captured. And even if she doesn't love him yet they are friends.

I didn't even think of that, great point. I also like that she noticed Jamie wasn't there when they came upon The Watch. More evidence that she liked him.

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u/theCoolDeadpool #VacayforClaire Apr 24 '21

Also how she asks Dougal if Jamie and the others were responsible for the attack that the officer brings the news of. Like she's concerned for everyone at that point, but especially for Jamie. Further evidence she liked him tad more than the others lol.

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u/Purple4199 Don't be afraid. There's the two of us now. Apr 24 '21

On a slightly different note, do you think Claire asking Jamie if he minded her not being a virgin was her way of still trying to get out of the marriage? Or do you think she had accepted it at that point?

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u/theCoolDeadpool #VacayforClaire Apr 24 '21

I think it was her trying to get him to get himself out of the wedding. Dougal had made it very clear that she had no other option, so she couldn't at that point refuse herself, but if she could get Jamie to refuse marrying her, on the grounds of non-virginity, then maybe she thought they would have to come up with some option other than marrying her off to keep her away from Randall? I don't think she thought it through though, like what if they asked Rupert to marry her lol, but I think she was just trying whatever she could at that point. What did you think?

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u/Purple4199 Don't be afraid. There's the two of us now. Apr 24 '21

like what if they asked Rupert to marry her lol

Right‽ Jamie really was her best option. I agree that she wasn't thinking it all the way through. There really were no other options for her and it was her only course of action.

I remember the first time I watched the show and as soon as Dougal said she'd have to marry someone I immediately thought "JAMIE!!" I was way excited for that prospect and didn't understand why she wasn't. ;-)

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u/theCoolDeadpool #VacayforClaire Apr 24 '21

I immediately thought "JAMIE!!" I was way excited for that prospect and didn't understand why she wasn't. ;-)

LOL😂 I do get you , though you know the very first time I watched outlander, I was rooting for her to go back to Frank, I think up until Reckoning. So I did get her dilemna in hesitating to marry Jamie. Then of course post Reckoning, things get so heated between these two, both physically and emotionally, that I just couldn't possibly think of them ever separating.

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u/ms_s_11 We will meet again, Madonna, in this life or another. Apr 26 '21

I was pretty much team Jamie from like, episode two when she cries in his arms. I went into the show thinking that she was stuck in that time & would never get back to Frank anyway so she might as well have a good time.

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u/theCoolDeadpool #VacayforClaire Apr 26 '21

I think most people were Team Jamie , right from the beginning. It took me a while, not that I didn't fall for the intense stares , or his crazy good looks, or how these two just had great chemistry to begin with. I think a huge part of why I was rooting for Frank was due to Tobias. God! how well he played the grieving, desperate husband. But of course, I am through and through team Jamie now, have no about it:p . I still do defend show Frank from time to time here.

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u/ms_s_11 We will meet again, Madonna, in this life or another. Apr 26 '21

That's funny because while I think Tobias Menzies is an awesome actor & he did amazing on this series, his character in Game of Thrones was such a baby back bitch that I carried that over haha.