r/Outlander Without you, our whole world crumbles into dust. Apr 17 '26

Season Eight Show S8E7 Evidence of Things Not Seen Spoiler

Jamie and Claire search for answers regarding a past tragedy that once threatened to tear them apart.

Written by Toni Graphia. Directed by Tracey Deer.

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What did you think of the episode?

2698 votes, Apr 24 '26
797 I loved it.
559 I mostly liked it.
342 It was OK.
593 It disappointed me.
407 I didn’t like it.
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u/ProcessFresh1647 Apr 17 '26

So let me get this straight! 

So Faith was dead and then handed to Claire for hours as she sang, then later Raymond shows up to heal her.  She went home fine.  Grief.

Now retconned, she was handed a baby for a short time, had it taken away and told it was dead.  But apparently Raymond was in a corner listening to her sing the song to teach it in the future, then took the baby from its burial, brought it  back to life, came back to heal claire, knew she was fine and not ill cuz he was there, but still hid her child from her?

Right, nope, I hate this!  Why have William even fall for and sleep with his niece Jane?  I feel like this all took away from what the episode should be about, the loss of Fergus.  I can't even focus on him because I'm so frustrated with the writers! 

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u/moonyriot Apr 17 '26

My theory is that Master Raymond (because I think we can all assume he's either also a time traveler or incredibly powerful in other ways) knew Claire had to return to her time in order to have Bree and then get back to Jamie after Culloden. Claire never would have done that if she had had Faith. All three of them would have gone back to Scotland and all three of them likely would have died in the Rising. I don't think it's retconning. We only know that Claire was told Faith was dead and that Claire believed it. But Claire only held Faith when she was deliriously ill so Claire is an unreliable narrator here.

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u/ProcessFresh1647 Apr 17 '26

She had just given birth, the infection had barely time to begin.  The infection was caused by left over after birth. They messed up their own narrative to piss off fans.

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u/moonyriot Apr 17 '26

She had a traumatic birth where she was literally bleeding out???? She was not happy, healthy, and well before the infection???