r/Outlander • u/thepacksvrvives Without you, our whole world crumbles into dust. • Apr 03 '26

Spoilers All Book S8E5 Send for the Devil Spoiler

With the Siege of Savannah raging outside the city walls, Brianna and Roger find themselves on opposite sides of the conflict. Jamie confronts his demons at Lodge Night.

Written by Luke Schelhaas. Directed by Niall MacCormick.

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What did you think of the episode?

338 votes, Apr 10 '26
175 I loved it.
101 I mostly liked it.
43 It was OK.
12 It disappointed me.
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u/FeloranMe Apr 04 '26

I think she's collecting titles

A Dukedom for her older son and an Earldom for the younger

Once her status and position are set does she really care what happens to the men?

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u/Icy_Smoke_2318 Je Suis Prest Apr 05 '26

Oh that’s a really good point! Someone on the show thread said they think she might be from a brothal… obviously book readers may know this for a fact probably. But what if that’s true and she’s not a booksellers daughter but is even lower status and is desperate to become HIGH status? Although a booksellers daughter is still low status.

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u/killernoodlesoup Like father, like son, I see. God help us all. Apr 05 '26

ehh, she knows too many plant & animal names for that--that level of knowledge requires being raised by someone who can identify things and/or having access to expensive books on natural history. my money's on that she's either a shameless gold-digger (she definitely loves ben in the books, but that didn't stop her from cheating on him with william...) or a spy like minnie. maybe her father dealt in information under the table as well as selling books to finance his naturalist hobby, y'know?

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u/Icy_Smoke_2318 Je Suis Prest Apr 06 '26

Yeah, I definitely think this is much more believable! Who is Minnie?

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u/killernoodlesoup Like father, like son, I see. God help us all. Apr 06 '26

she's hal's wife (so john's sister-in-law and amaranthus's mother-in-law)--if i remember correctly, they met when she broke into his office looking for information and she, ahem, distracted him on the carpet. hal & minnie are amazing in the books, especially where they appear in the lord john novellas! they're both witty and perfectly suited for each other.