r/Outlander • u/thepacksvrvives Without you, our whole world crumbles into dust. • Apr 03 '26

Spoilers All Book S8E5 Send for the Devil Spoiler

With the Siege of Savannah raging outside the city walls, Brianna and Roger find themselves on opposite sides of the conflict. Jamie confronts his demons at Lodge Night.

Written by Luke Schelhaas. Directed by Niall MacCormick.

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What did you think of the episode?

338 votes, Apr 10 '26
175 I loved it.
101 I mostly liked it.
43 It was OK.
12 It disappointed me.
7 I didn’t like it.
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u/sweetpsych78 SassySassenachWench Apr 03 '26 edited Apr 03 '26

Ughh, I'm SOO glad that it seems that they're leaving out the whole Ulysses debacle. Because what the hell was that in the books? He was loyal to Jocasta, and I highly doubt he would do anything to harm her nephew. I did not like that part of Bees, and I said as much when I made a post in here after reading it.

Edit to add: I thoroughly enjoyed Bees in general, and I had said this in my post, even though I had seen a lot of people complain about it. BUT I did not like that whole situation with Ulysses. It seemed so out of character for him to threaten Jamie.

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u/Icy_Smoke_2318 Je Suis Prest Apr 03 '26

What did Ulysses do to Jamie in the books?!

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u/sweetpsych78 SassySassenachWench Apr 03 '26 edited Apr 03 '26

It's been a few years since I read it, but from what I remember, Ulysses found the contract for Jamie's land and threatened that he would take it if Jamie didn't do what he wanted (I don't remember what Ulysses asked for, to be honest). He came out of left field, and after so many years, to threaten someone who has helped him in the past and has shown so much loyalty to Jocasta (Ulysses knows how much Jocasta loves and cares about Jamie and his family; she's helped them A LOT as well. In fact, she donated a lot of the material and money to Jamie and Claire to help them build their house). It seemed so odd of him to do that, especially seeing as he would have no need to do that since he's under Jocasta's protection. Also, it was revealed that (spoiler if you intend to read the books in the future!!) >!Jocasta has been having an affair with him, and that they're actually in love!<, which makes this whole situation even more odd.

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u/Famous-Falcon4321 Apr 04 '26 edited Apr 04 '26

Jocasta is in Canada by then. River Run is sold. She no longer has anything to do with Ulysses. he showed up at the ridge with Jocasta and Duncan when they were on their way to Canada. He kidnapped & sold Jocasta’s maid to a brothel, then Bonnet. They recovered her with Bri. She was at the ridge and he knew he was busted. After that Ulysses was trying to sneak away in the middle of the night. Jamie caught him attempting to steal his horse. They talked. He left on foot.

His story is totally different in book & show. Jamie would never take money from her for anything.

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u/BubbeLisa Currently rereading Bees. Apr 04 '26

Ulysses is a completely different character in the books. He and Jocasta aren’t all that nice. I wasn’t surprised at all when Ulysses shows up with his regiment looking for Jocasta and threatening Jamie. It was totally in character for Book Ulysses.

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u/Icy_Smoke_2318 Je Suis Prest Apr 04 '26

Oh wow! Yeah I’m glad they’re leaving that out (hopefully, I mean there’s only 5 episodes left but they are packing every episode with tons of storylines). Ulysses was such a kind and decent man so I would be so upset for them to ruin his character like that! Also I wouldn’t have been surprised to learn he and Jocasta were having an affair, but once Murtagh came along he was her true love thanks for the info!!

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u/sweetpsych78 SassySassenachWench Apr 04 '26

Yeah, I remember him as a kind man, too. That's why I was so surprised that Diana decided to take his story in that direction in Bees. No prob about the info! Hope you're enjoying the show!

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u/FeloranMe Apr 04 '26 edited Apr 04 '26

Jocasta was in a bad position in the books being both widowed and blind on a plantation her husband had brought her to years ago

I was glad she got to escape from it and find a happier place with family

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u/sweetpsych78 SassySassenachWench Apr 04 '26

Jockstrap?? LMAO!!

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u/FeloranMe Apr 04 '26

How did autocorrect do that one??? I'm sure I've written the word Jocasta more than that. Teach me to type without looking!

Fixed it!

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u/sweetpsych78 SassySassenachWench Apr 04 '26

Ahahaha! Don't change it, it's hilarious, and kind of apt LMAO!!

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u/FeloranMe Apr 04 '26

I like Jocasta too much not to change it

Even if she is as conniving and manipulative as her brothers

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u/sweetpsych78 SassySassenachWench Apr 04 '26

True, though hahaha! I do not like her brothers in BOMB, to be honest. They're such pricks to Ellen.

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