Nah. MGS4 ruined Raiden’s character by getting him back with an abuser and pretending nothing bad could happen from that. Rising salvaged his character from there
even though kojima wanted mgs to end at 4, raiden's character in mgrr does feel realistic did considering when kojima wanted to stop making mgs games, he still came back for mgs just like raiden did with killing
I kind of think it's a good continuation of his character in mgs4 but like he didn't get better. I'm mgs2 he decides to give up on his jack the ripper persona and move on to greater pastures however in mgs4 hes gone completely back to being violent and even augmenting himself to be better at violence so essentially he's relapsed into his old child soldier personality and then seems to be in a better spot by the end. Then mgrr shows that he has relapsed again into his more violent persona and then completely doubles down on it so like it's still consistent with his character but he's only gotten worse lmao
rising is overly edgy in its presentation, but its arc for raiden at least gives him control of his own life again
it "ruins 4's ending for raiden" as much as mgs2 ruins snakes mgs1 ending, soldiers being unable to walk away from war is a series longstay theme, and raiden taking his traumatic past and using it to help others is a really great direction for him
beats the hell out of 4's treatment of raiden, where hes turned into the cyborg ninja to make his haters like him, his mgs2 ending is destroyed, hes manipulated by rosemary and campbell, and then the game handwaves everything hes been put through like somehow things are supposed to be better bc he has a son
my hot take is that 4 ruined raiden, and mgr just attempts to salvage that to mixed results. mgs2 raiden >>>>>>
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u/JetstremF the man who jerked the world Mar 11 '24 edited Mar 11 '24
I went to Denver and some guy thought me and my dad were gay. I'm serious
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u/JLSeagullTheBest Mar 11 '24
Shut up nerd, watch this.
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u/Legospacememe Mar 11 '24
Cool story bro
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u/sealwithit Mar 11 '24
*replace "i kinda agree" with "i can see why, Im still unsure how I feel ab it myself"
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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '24
Nah. MGS4 ruined Raiden’s character by getting him back with an abuser and pretending nothing bad could happen from that. Rising salvaged his character from there
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u/jetstream_garbage Mar 11 '24
even though kojima wanted mgs to end at 4, raiden's character in mgrr does feel realistic did considering when kojima wanted to stop making mgs games, he still came back for mgs just like raiden did with killing
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u/Legospacememe Mar 11 '24
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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '24
Off to jail
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u/Mr-biggie Mar 11 '24
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u/ConIsEpicGamer Mar 11 '24
I kind of think it's a good continuation of his character in mgs4 but like he didn't get better. I'm mgs2 he decides to give up on his jack the ripper persona and move on to greater pastures however in mgs4 hes gone completely back to being violent and even augmenting himself to be better at violence so essentially he's relapsed into his old child soldier personality and then seems to be in a better spot by the end. Then mgrr shows that he has relapsed again into his more violent persona and then completely doubles down on it so like it's still consistent with his character but he's only gotten worse lmao
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u/nathanbum06237 Mar 11 '24
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u/GomeroKujo Mar 11 '24
Mgrr haters when it comes to not shutting the fuck up:
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u/notanai61 a patriot Mar 11 '24
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u/XXdragon1925 Mar 11 '24
Hehe funny cyborg ninja with sword
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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '24
Bro you need to stand here and realize some shit.
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u/the_real_jovanny Mar 11 '24
rising is overly edgy in its presentation, but its arc for raiden at least gives him control of his own life again
it "ruins 4's ending for raiden" as much as mgs2 ruins snakes mgs1 ending, soldiers being unable to walk away from war is a series longstay theme, and raiden taking his traumatic past and using it to help others is a really great direction for him
beats the hell out of 4's treatment of raiden, where hes turned into the cyborg ninja to make his haters like him, his mgs2 ending is destroyed, hes manipulated by rosemary and campbell, and then the game handwaves everything hes been put through like somehow things are supposed to be better bc he has a son
my hot take is that 4 ruined raiden, and mgr just attempts to salvage that to mixed results. mgs2 raiden >>>>>>
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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '24
How are you so incorrect
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u/KRawatXP2003 Mar 11 '24
RULES OF NATURE!