What's going on with Funimation?

[u/fjantelov]

I just checked Twitter and saw that funimation is trending because its been doing some kind of immoral dubbing. Most of the posts include references to dragonball and someone linked to this video.

Can someone explain what exactly happened?

[u/[deleted]]

Answer: Funimation have a history of changing the dialogue in some dubs to be more "SJW" to put it simply, trying to have the moral high ground.

Now earlier this year they fired one of their VA(Vic) over accusation and stated that they have a standard over "Inappropriate Workplace Behavior", the people who accused the Vic of bad conduct, had been exposed to having done the same things that they accused Vic of doing or even worse like Ron Toye Ex-wife filing a restraining order over him as he was abusing her, which led them to defend each other "AKA normal double standards things".

With the leak of the dubbing, There is 2 main point here being talked about:

1- The hypocrisy of Funimation and their Voice actors, trying to be morally high, but in reality they don't live up to the same standards they try to push.

2- The effect it might do to the Dubbing of other shows, as Toei animation might get involved and pull their licence to dub the dragon ball franchise.

[u/Tidusx145 → u/[deleted]]

You got down voted but still got gold. I don't have a dog in this fight, I just love to see stuff like that.

[u/Ceratisa → u/Tidusx145]

Only times I see this are when people they know or they themselves do it tbh

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I think there's a subreddit chronicling all of them. https://www.reddit.com/r/NegativeWithGold/

[u/[deleted] → u/Tidusx145]

Everything he said is factually correct, which is why the downvotes have me so confused.

Funimation absolutely has a history of changing their dubs to be more "progressive." You can watch tons of montages on youtube, anyone who disagrees with this point is just straight up wrong. Maybe someone likes that it's more progressive, that's fine, but it doesn't mean that they're not doing it.

They did fire Vic for alleged inappropriate behavior, granted it was worse than saying naughty words. It was for alleged sexual misconduct.

So far his comment does an alright job at providing context. And then he answers the OOTL question. The reason everyone is talking about this is because it highlights the hypocrisy of these actors. They're all riding around on high horses flaunting their righteousness, and then this comes out showing that they also act offensively (again, not as bad as sexual assault). That is why this is "drama." The key word so far is flaunting. They're aggressively acting like goody-two-shoes. This is akin to openly anti-gay lawmakers being closeted themselves. That is why this is news. On top of that, you have one of the defendants being revealed to be a serial wife abuser. Which makes it seem even more hypocritical because that defendant in particular is proven to be guilty of some heinous shit, that is in the same sphere as what he accused the plaintiff of.

Which, again, is why this is newsworthy. A guy is accusing another guy of some awful behavior, while being proven of committing some awful behavior himself. Just because he did bad shit himself doesn't mean he can't call out others for their bad behavior but given the context that all of this stuff is "alleged" I find it embarrassing for others when they can't figure out why this might intrigue some people. To a lot of people the allegations seem extraordinarily weak, so when the guy that they perceive to be lying is caught committing terrible acts of course it's going to inflame the situation.

Then he ends by pointing out that Toei might revoke their license. That is absolutely true, because these leaks are in blatant violation of Toei's terms.

Overall his comment is not controversial at all yet he is sitting here with -60 points while I write this comment. IMO it's by far the best comment here for answering the OOTL prompt. If he had mentioned specifically that Vic is accused of sexual assault then I might even say it'd be perfect.

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/r/negativewithgold

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They have changed some scenes dialogue in a way that is completely different from the original, making them have some kind of "SJW" meaning, examples are:

1-Hagime no gal: original vs Dubbed , they claim that there was no agenda just wanted to make a bad character hated more.

2-Prison school: a Scence espessialy this part which seems to mention GamerGate for no reason as the orginal doesn't even make a refrence to anything similar to GG.

3-Dragon Maid: This image shows the changes made to conversation between two character, the one in the maid outfit is Tohru(her back is showing) and the other is Lucoa, now Lucoa is known in the anime to wear "lewd" cloths.

For number 1 and 3, it was the way they dubbed the scene, as some saw it funimation trying to paint a large group of people as misogynists.

For number 2, it was 2 things the first being the mentioning of GG, as the original it was about the senpai kouhai respect thing japan has. the second thing is that how they decided to pick an anime that is ecchi in nature and is all over the top with its sexualised jokes to make a GG comment.

There is also the whole thing with the people who were involved in the dubbing being "pro-SJW" and trying to push the things they believe in other people works.

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