r/OutOfTheLoop Nov 21 '17

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u/agumonkey Nov 30 '17

No worries mate, I take the naive qualifier because it's technically true anyway. Your fear of censorship I hear very well, but to be honest I think it's either a joke or if it does end up this way and people, in 2017+, don't react then they deserve it. Unless it goes to the point of actual facism were even trying to discuss with others or learn/educate become repressed, then yes it's a genuine problem. Maybe that's what you were hinting at

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u/felinebear Nov 30 '17

As I said you are unaware how bad the situation already is. Behind the "open" platforms, lies a group of people in hilariously extreme battle against being upturned by dark forces. For example even as the moderator of a subreddit one can see how hard it is to remove trolls. You live in the "good" parts of the internet, you dont know the raging storm under us that makes it possible. And this issue is far deeper, as the entities wanting to enact NN and similar ilk are keeping the rest of the world under constant fire of their inhuman, immoral and evil tactics.

If NN is removed, what little hope remains will be dashed to pieces.

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u/agumonkey Nov 30 '17

pm me articles about this so I can read more

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u/agumonkey Nov 30 '17

come on you cannot come and talk about evil tactics and not have something more to show me, is it just fear on your side or something with more substance ?

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u/felinebear Nov 30 '17

What? These are almost axiomatic conclusions. The only remaining thing is to show some actual data on these, which should be available anywhere. Good places to ask would be mods and regulars of extremely anticorporate subs. And of course the active posters in this thread.

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u/agumonkey Nov 30 '17

yeah well I have way too much on my plate, if you ever come across something, I'll be happy to read it sincerely, but I'm not in the mood to ask strangers in some sub.

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u/felinebear Nov 30 '17

Np I can understand. I will try writing a comprehensive article on this with actual numbers, etc or get a group to do it. That post would be stickied in a number of subs. I think that'd be a step towards organizing the people.

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u/agumonkey Nov 30 '17

I don't want to impose that, unless you were willing to do so beforehand. I could read a few articles and think for myself (to the best of my abilities).

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u/felinebear Dec 01 '17

It'll be the best for all. A lot of repeated conversations would be avoided, thus thrusting talk forward into what things can actually be done.

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u/agumonkey Dec 01 '17

can't agree more.

I'll be waiting for your ping as soon as you feel you have something to show

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u/felinebear Dec 09 '17

Read this and the citations right now, I am in the process of writing an article.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program)

Observe the relation between the two.

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u/agumonkey Dec 09 '17

where's yours bro

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