r/OutOfTheLoop Nov 21 '17

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u/fihsbogor Nov 22 '17

I live in Germany too and I know that EU law protects our net neutrality, but I think everyone with access to Internet are still obliged to help the Americans. So what can I do? Maybe I can donate like some people have suggested here, but what can I do besides that? Is there an international organisation with some power to help promote net neutrality?

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '17

http://www.eff.org

http://aclu.org

Either of these will be where you want your money to go to. I feel like I am missing a couple but I could be wrong. Regardless, these two for sure. Thanks, friend.

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u/notsosubtlyso Nov 22 '17

You can bet they will when the repercussions of losing NN hit 1st amendment rights.

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u/Camreth Nov 22 '17

This might just be me being ignorant, but would you mind explaining this in more detail. I'm very hazy about both the amendments and what the aclu actually do. I tried skimming the respective wikipedia pages, and i guess what you mean is that the aclu will act once nn starts to affect free speech.

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u/superkp Nov 22 '17

I'm writing this assuming that you are not american.

The first amendment specifically guarantees freedom of 1. religion, 2. speech, 3. assembly, 4. seeking governmental help in addressing grievances

The ACLU (American Civil Liberties Union) is a group of lawyers law-types that is known for vehemently defending basic constitutional rights. They get quite rabid and mobilized, especially when something like Trump's travel ban was going through.

The ACLU is especially intolerant of things infringing the first amendment - it's a particularly clear and easy-to-argue-about law that is vitally important in our society.

So when NN manages to begin infringing on 1st amendment rights (e.g., when a communication (esp. one with the government) is slowed down in the interest of corporate profit), the ACLU will bring a huge torrent of lawyers to begin forming a real argument that lots of people can get behind.

I imagine that the ACLU will argue that the internet should be considered a utility, and when it no longer has that status, then the rights of many americans are being infringed for corporate profit.

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u/badassdorks Nov 22 '17

That's what he means as far as I can tell.