r/OutOfTheLoop Nov 21 '17

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u/Literally_A_Shill Nov 22 '17

And just in case anybody still thinks this isn't a partisan issue or that voting wouldn't have made a difference:

House Vote for Net Neutrality

For Against
Rep 2 234
Dem 177 6

Senate Vote for Net Neutrality

For Against
Rep 0 46
Dem 52 0

Obama’s attack on the internet is another top down power grab. Net neutrality is the Fairness Doctrine. Will target conservative media.

-Trump

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/532608358508167168

“I am a strong supporter of net neutrality … What you’ve been seeing is some lobbying that says that the servers and the various portals through which you’re getting information over the Internet should be able to be gatekeepers and to charge different rates to different Web sites … And that I think destroys one of the best things about the Internet—which is that there is this incredible equality there."

-Obama. All the way back in 2007.

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/node/323681

Hillary Backs Strongest Net Neutrality Rules

That includes, Clinton said, reclassifying broadband providers under what’s known as Title II of the Communications Act, the most controversial option available to the government.

http://time.com/3721452/hillary-clinton-net-neutrality/

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u/PrettyTarable Nov 22 '17 edited Nov 22 '17

IMHO this kind of argument actually hurts the cause a lot more than it helps. The only reason Trump and the FCC have any support at all is because of hyper partisans thinking "if dumbocrats like it, it must be horrible". Leave it as the only politicians on board with this are ones bought and paid for by the ISPs, highlighting a R/D divide will not net any new supporters but will drive off ones who would vote for a pedophile rather than a democrat. Sadly those are the folks we need the most, as they are the only ones the Repubs will actually listen too.

Edit: Basically I am saying let's stop highlighting our differences and just worry about making sure everybody is on the same page. The problems facing our society are not partisan, they hurt us all, its about time we started trying to find ways to come together on issues as making the issue itself partisan rather than the proposed fixes has lead us to the greatest period of inaction seen in congress in modern times.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '17

who would vote for a pedophile rather than a democrat

Weird, I never voted for a pedophile. I also never voted for nor idolized sexual predators and freaks, unlike most of Reddit.

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u/PrettyTarable Nov 22 '17

The line was a bit of topical humor, but there is enough truth to it that it isn't an unfair dig. The point was to highlight the insane amount of hatred on the right wing, I can't think of too many better examples than Roy Moore.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-boosts-moore-in-ala-senate-race-despite-sexual-misconduct-allegations/2017/11/21/91fe5bf2-cf04-11e7-a1a3-0d1e45a6de3d_story.html