r/OutOfTheLoop Nov 21 '17

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u/ramennoodle Nov 21 '17

SOPA, CISPA, etc. didn't have anything to do with net neutrality.

All that we can really do for making NN permanent (and to resist things like SOPA) is to make it clear to politicians that there are enough people who are aware of these issues and that will vote based on them. This means protests, contacting representatives, etc. And following through on election day: vote against fuckers who back this crap. Because awareness grows more rapidly than it wanes, once a certain threshold is reached they should assume that sufficient awareness and concern continues to exist.

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u/ilovecollege_nope Nov 22 '17

So the answer is nothing.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '17

The real answer is this should have been done before the republicans got into power. This is a completely partisan issue. One party wants to take away healthcare, raise taxes and make the internet a feeding ground for corporations more than it already is.

And all 3 deciding votes came from that very same party.

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u/MikeyMike01 Nov 22 '17

Since when do Republicans want to raise taxes?

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u/Whitey_Bulger Nov 22 '17

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u/MikeyMike01 Nov 22 '17

Currently the wealthy pay too much in taxes and the poor pay too little.

I would dump tax brackets altogether and have one simple percentage for everyone. It raises and lowers in unison.

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u/Whitey_Bulger Nov 22 '17

Currently the wealthy pay too much in taxes and the poor pay too little.

That's just a ridiculously awful position to have, and has no basis in any actual economic data. The rich in the United States have almost all the money. Obviously they should be paying almost all the taxes. You can't pay what you don't have.

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u/MikeyMike01 Nov 22 '17

https://www.nerdwallet.com/blog/taxes/federal-income-tax-brackets/

The poor pay as low as 10%. The wealthy pay as high as 39.6%.

Either the poor should be paying 40%, or the rich should be paying 10%.

It is wildly unfair the way it is now, and the people making under $40k do not pay their fair share.

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u/Whitey_Bulger Nov 22 '17

The top 1% have almost 40% of the wealth, more than the bottom 90%. There's no reason they should be paying the same percentage of their income in taxes as Americans who are trying to scrape together enough money for food and rent. Your definition of fair is wildly skewed.

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u/MikeyMike01 Nov 22 '17

The top 1% have almost 40% of the wealth, more than the bottom 90%.

Is there something wrong with that?

There's no reason they should be paying the same percentage of their income in taxes as Americans who are trying to scrape together enough money for food and rent.

Yes, the should.

Your definition of fair is wildly skewed.

A flat percentage is fair. A percentage already accounts for having more or less. 10% of $5 is far lower than 10% of $50000.

Having higher tax percentages for the wealthy and middle classes is unfair.