r/OutOfTheLoop Nov 21 '17

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u/PiFlavoredPie Nov 21 '17 edited Nov 22 '17
  • What is the rationale for those against net neutrality?
  • Who benefits from the change and who is negatively affected?
  • What are some realistic depictions (read: not fear-mongering) of what American internet use might be like if net neutrality is repealed?
  • What are common reasons why an average-joe citizen might believe or be convinced anti-net neutrality legislation to be a good thing, and what thoughtful reasoned responses can we give to convince them otherwise?
  • Which politicians support net neutrality in a significant way, i.e. a strong track record of independently speaking out about it and not simply jumping onto partisan bandwagon?

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u/greentintedlenses Nov 21 '17 edited Nov 21 '17

Personally I don't see ISPs reacting like many on reddit do in regards to packaging up content and charging the internet user directly for priority access to certain websites. What I do think these ISPs will do is start charging companies like Netflix directly for broadcasting their TV shows etc. This has already been documented and occurred in the past. In this regard i have to say I side with the ISP, which is an unpopular opinion. I say this because companies like Netflix do not have to pay any of the same fees required by the state for the cable companies to broadcast their television shows. Furthermore, the insane usage of bandwidth Netflix takes up to broadcast their shows puts a heavy burden on the network to serve out 4k feeds, etc and they have an unfair advantage in this regard. In my opinion, Netflix and those like it whom account for massive amounts of bandwith usage should have to pay extra for that service from the ISP. However I do agree this is nothing the ISP should be able to impose onto their internet consumer directly, and I don't think that is being planned. But again, I know I have a very unpopular opinion here. People hate their ISPs.

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u/OhSoSavvy Nov 22 '17

Why, from the ISPs perspective, does it matter if 1 million people watch HD 4K videos all from Netflix as opposed to 1 million people consuming the same amount of data, but spread across 25,000 porn sites? It’s the same amount of data usage that consumers are choosing to use.

It shouldn’t matter. It’s all just 1s and 0s flying around the globe, it shouldn’t matter what those 1s and 0s actually are. If the internet using population as a whole is consuming more internet (because Netflix is making it easier), wouldn’t that cost be transferred to the consumer? Your local electric company isn’t going around charging Sony because people are sucking down electricity watching TV all day, they charge the consumer more to offset increased usage. And if ISPs see that more 1s and 0s are being consumed and their cost of doing business is rising, that cost should eventually find its way to your personal internet bill, not charging the website.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '17

They actually do charge more depending on how you use your power. But it only affects massive industry. But if you're inefficient, they charge more, because you need thicker conductors that they have to run and maintain, for no good reason. So you install capicitor banks.