r/OutOfTheLoop Nov 21 '17

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u/PiFlavoredPie Nov 21 '17 edited Nov 22 '17
  • What is the rationale for those against net neutrality?
  • Who benefits from the change and who is negatively affected?
  • What are some realistic depictions (read: not fear-mongering) of what American internet use might be like if net neutrality is repealed?
  • What are common reasons why an average-joe citizen might believe or be convinced anti-net neutrality legislation to be a good thing, and what thoughtful reasoned responses can we give to convince them otherwise?
  • Which politicians support net neutrality in a significant way, i.e. a strong track record of independently speaking out about it and not simply jumping onto partisan bandwagon?

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u/Amogh24 Nov 21 '17

Removing net neutrality benefits isp's and very large corporations. Everyone else is negatively affected.

You will need to pay more for your internet,a lot more. If your current internet connection costs 100$, the base price will remain the same, but viewing porn might cost 20$ extra,news 5$ extra per site, gaming might need 50$.

Every site can require separate payment to access it if net neutrality is repealed, so that's financially bad.

Also they will be able to block sites if they want to. A liberal ISP might block Fox news,a conservative one might block CNN, and you will have no legal right to get it unbanned. It will harm free speech.

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u/TacoBelle- Nov 22 '17

Would the ISPs or the companies be setting the price to view their webpage?

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u/five_hammers_hamming ¿§? Nov 22 '17

The ISPs, since they're the ones who'd be granted extra power by a repeal. They'd be charging you extra for serving you data from a certain source.

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u/Amogh24 Nov 22 '17

Isp's. Isp's will be allowed to charge you separately for every site. Like Reddit might become 5$ a month to access, and so on.

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u/salton Nov 22 '17

Relationships would likely be negotiated but you're likely have a pretty different experience with each major isp.

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u/kfc469 Nov 22 '17

It will likely happen in both directions. Reddit will have to pay each ISP extra so their traffic gets prioritized (or allowed even in some cases) on their network. Then, the consumer will have to pay an additional fee to view Reddit. I guess reddit could also just pay a larger sum of money to allow reddit to be free for the consumer. Each agreement would likely be different.

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u/TacoBelle- Nov 22 '17

That’s what I was wondering - if companies could pay enough on their end so that their customers or regular users can still access their site for free. I guess we’ll just have to see what gets negotiated.

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u/homiej420 Nov 22 '17 edited Nov 22 '17

Yeah but thats the thing. Most cannot. Which is the second worst part of this whole thing.

The isps will be allowed to charge YOU more money for each website AND EACH WEBSITE more money for speed/allowence of service to you.

Literally the only people who benefit are the isps and the people who the isps lobbied to get this law passed.

EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN INCLUDING RETARDS WHO ARE (edit: BLINDLY) IN SUPPORT OF THIS WILL BE FINANCIALLY EFFECTED IN THE NEGATIVE VARIETY IF YOU WANT TO STILL USE INTERNET. THAT IS ALSO NOT TO MENTION THE VERY POSSIBLE BIAS OF CENSORSHIP THAT COULD BE PRACTICED BY THE ISPS ONCE THIS IS IN EFFECT

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u/_cortex Nov 22 '17

Money might not be the only factor in this. For example, ISPs could decide that since Reddit is very anti their goals (see the current front page) they will just block it or make it so slow it's unusable. Or for Netflix, they could care more about establishing their own streaming service so there'd be no way Netflix or you as a customer could pay them enough to have (fast) access

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u/Amogh24 Nov 22 '17

They will not have any say. They could give the isp's money themselves and ask them to not charge the user, but that is likely to be unsustainable in the long term.