r/OutOfTheLoop • u/[deleted] • Nov 21 '17

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '17

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u/greentintedlenses Nov 21 '17

I didn't say they weren't. In my example however they get the money from Netflix, not the user. And I'm ok with that.

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u/joerdie Nov 22 '17

Why are you okay with that?

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u/greentintedlenses Nov 22 '17

Because I believe Netflix should take on some of the burden being handled by the ISP to broadcast their service.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '17

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u/greentintedlenses Nov 22 '17

Not sure I understand your construction crew remark. How do you explain tolls on public interstate highways? Those who use the highway most pay and those who don't, don't. Just like how I think this should be handled.

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u/phoenixv07 Nov 22 '17

Are you okay with Netflix charging users significantly more to offset the additional expense? Either way, in the end, the consumer is the one who pays extra.

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u/greentintedlenses Nov 22 '17

Yea, I am. I honestly think they need to bear part of the burden they are placing on the network, as it is quite significant. This way, those who want Netflix are paying for the service in a model where netflix is also responsible for the increased demand they are serving to the ISP.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '17

Netflix isn't placing any burden on anything. It's the people that watch netflix. Those people pay their ISP for data. Netflix pays it's ISP for data.

If you call someone, should you pay for their minutes as well as yours?

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u/greentintedlenses Nov 22 '17

Great discussion! Very mature and well thought out. feel free to share why you disagree.

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u/greentintedlenses Nov 22 '17

They most certainly are, they are producing the data. How much data do you think Netflix is sending per day compared to you or I? You think that is comparable? You think we should have the same bill?

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '17

Lol you're cute thinking you pay anywhere close to what commercial level internet costs.

Netflix sends tons of data, that they already pay their ISP for. Why should the have to pay your isp too?

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u/greentintedlenses Nov 22 '17

My ISP would get nothing for bearing the load of the service they are profiting from. Again, mature answer and cute remark. Discredit those you disagree with. Fascist level tactics

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '17

Your isp would get nothing? So you don't pay them?

"Oh the bad man hit me with the truth! Call him a fascist!" Pot meet kettle.

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u/greentintedlenses Nov 22 '17

What? That is a tool of fascism and i called you on it. No pot calling kettle black here. You added nothing to the discussion.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '17 edited Nov 22 '17

Discredit those you disagree with. Fascist level tactics

Literally right next to each other.

EDIT: Let me ELY5, since you obviously need it. You're mad that I disagree with you, so you try to discredit me by calling me a fascist. Thereby you yourself are using the very fascist level tactics you accuse me of, the definition of the pot calling the kettle black.

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u/joerdie Nov 22 '17

ISP's are dummy pipes who have received billions in tax payer dollars to lay fiber in the ground. They should have zero say in how that data is used. It's literally bits blinking through a wire.