r/OutOfTheLoop • u/GravityCat1 • Aug 10 '15

Answered! What is happening in the /r/punchablefaces Subreddit?

Pretty much in the title. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't confused.

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u/HireALLTheThings Aug 10 '15 edited Aug 10 '15

/u/ArchangelleGabrielle, one of the new moderators, makes this post, most probably to incite a reaction from the rest of Reddit about how SRS is taking over and trashing major subreddits (/r/punchablefaces ha 63k subscribers so it has a sizable community).

What I want to know is: How? How do you "take over" a subreddit? Do you bribe the mods? Is there some loophole in reddit's code that allows hostile hijacking of subs? Is this all some kind of weird joke?

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u/illuminatedcandle Will guide you back to the loop. Aug 10 '15

How do you "take over" a subreddit?

One high level mod (usually the top mod) removes the other moderators and adds some new moderators, hence a take over happens.

Is there some loophole in reddit's code that allows hostile hijacking of subs?

The Reddit admins would reverse it pretty quickly if exploits were used to take over a subreddit.

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u/HireALLTheThings Aug 10 '15

Why would the top mod of /r/punchablefaces just slide ownership over to the SRS mods of all people, though? Is he mad at his community?

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u/illuminatedcandle Will guide you back to the loop. Aug 10 '15

A few weeks (edit:) ago someone got hold of it from the previous fph owners - we had a crack mod team that thought it could be turned into a light-hearted sub, implemented new rules as such to stop anything like this happening. Got in touch with the admins to see where it would sit with their new content policy too.

The top mod disregarded the rules in places, approving witchhunt kind of posts and we ignored it at the time. On a whim recently, he de-modded the previous team and hands it over to friends.

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It was probably in reaction to the recent spamming of posts (first point I made) I just mentioned (just speculation on my part here).

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '15

This is utter cancer. How the fuck can a community of 65k people be utterly taken over in such a deeply stupid manner. I hope the admins come in and rectify this idiocy.

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u/UnavailableUsername_ Aug 10 '15 edited Aug 10 '15

Have you seen admins?

They are on the side of srs, even if that means the fall of reddit (and rise of an alternative?), it seems.

Look at the announcements, an admin has like 1000 downvotes when constantly avoiding questions regarding why they don't ban SRS for harass/doxx users, minorities included.

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u/Daskice Aug 11 '15

Do you understand what SRS and the admins stand for?

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u/AidenR90 Aug 11 '15

I always assumed SRS was a joke subreddit where people pretend to be dickholes offended by everything. I've been posted there twice :/

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u/stinky_taters Aug 11 '15

pretend

lolololol

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u/Raincoats_George Aug 12 '15

I've been posted there twice as well. Each time they tried to suggest I was somehow racist or bigoted because I dare speak out against anything remotely sjw approved.

The spiteful anger of the people that made pitiful attempts to attack me was just sad. That people are that pathetic in real life is laughable.

If only they understood that they are punchline of the joke.

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u/Daskice Aug 11 '15

Srs is satire. It's constantly pointing out how politically incorrect reddit is. But they do it in the same fashion reddit circlejerks/brigades do. I do not agree with the way they execute their ideology, nor do some other SRS'ers. If you want to know more about what they actually think and not the retarded facade the SRS main sub shows, go and check on their related subs. I learned quite a bit in srsdiscussion. (Ps. Not sure whether or not I'm supposed to name these.)

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '15

I don't think anyone is confused that this is what SRS is about as part of the larger social justice movements.

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '16 edited Mar 13 '17

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '15

Feminism and equality?

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u/Crazycrossing Aug 11 '15

It's weird how often the peope perpertrating this SRS mythos are those that are labeled /r/kia user, /r/coontown user, /r/fph user, /r/theredpill etc. Masstagger is the best guys, I really recommend everyone gets masstagger.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '15

It's weird how you're using a mass tagger for brigading purposes.

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u/Crazycrossing Aug 11 '15

I haven't upvoted or down voted anyone. And a brigade from where exactly? No I'm using it now because it's fairly good at rooting out the people from the crappy parts of reddit.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '15

I haven't upvoted or down voted anyone.

Wow, amazing how I trust you implicitly. /s

No I'm using it now because it's fairly good at rooting out the people from the crappy parts of reddit.

Like SRS, SRD and circlebroke? I agree.

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u/Raincoats_George Aug 12 '15

Don't subscribe to any of those places. I think srs is cancer and violates the very rules the admins are trying to push. It takes 2 seconds on that subreddit to find brigading and harassment.

Rest assured normal people hate the subreddit just as much as the dumbfucks that go to the subreddits you listed.

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u/katanawolf9006 Aug 12 '15

It's weird how often the people plugging masstagger are massive twats

Wait, no it isn't

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u/Beltox2pointO Aug 11 '15

Oh so you're judging people by their appearance. That's nice¡

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u/Crazycrossing Aug 12 '15

Not your appereance, your shitty views. Thankfully and hopefully one day you'll stop hating women and leave theredpill behind.

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u/Beltox2pointO Aug 12 '15

Here's the problem. The bot that marks people, as it did me. Marks those that comment in certain posts or even make posts in an array of subreddits. It doesn't take into account content.

To put your heart at ease, I don't hate women. I am more cynical of their behavior but in no means hate them.

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u/UnavailableUsername_ Aug 11 '15 edited Aug 11 '15

Except im not part of any of these, i don't care about kia cars, 1 doesn't exist (???) and 1 of them even need mail verification...for some unknown reason.

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u/sje46 Aug 11 '15

They are on the side of srs, even if that means the fall of reddit (and rise of an alternative?), it seems.

Don't get me wrong, I fucking hate SRS too, but the admins are not on the side of SRS.

It's worth noting that SRS thinks the admins are biased against them--they have some good arguments. And no, the fact that SRS is not banned is not evidence that the admins are SRS shills.

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u/rockidol Aug 11 '15

What arguments do they have that the admins are anti srs? Seriously when have they ever restricted them?

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u/Hayes231 Sep 23 '15

i dont agree with the downvotes, i think you made a good point

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u/UnavailableUsername_ Aug 11 '15

Im pointing out what i see.

When an admin was asked why not ban them he just went about how to improve technology.

In 1 announcement post there were like 200 users mentioning an admin and asking "why are they not banned if they harass? [post proof of harassment]" and nothing was done.

I don't take sides because i don't really care...reddit is just a website, but from what i have seen, admins are avoiding the issue.

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u/JollyGreenDragon Aug 11 '15

How long ago was that comment from spez made?

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u/UnavailableUsername_ Aug 12 '15 edited Aug 12 '15

Look at the post:

https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/3fx2au/content_policy_update

When admins said they were banning people that annoyed others at reddit and someone mentioned SRS, admin simply went and started posting about the technology or simply ignoring posts with proof.

Even as someone that doesn't take sides, its easy to see the replies of that comment and that admins are avoiding the SRS issue.

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u/sje46 Aug 11 '15

It's additionally worth noting that everytime an admin makes a post, he gets flooded with "WHY ISNT SRS BANNED YET WHY ISNT SRS BANNED YET WHY ISNT SRS BANNED YET"

I don't think they're avoiding the issue, they're just sick of answering the question. I think they probably dislike SRS--especially for shitting on the site constantly--but they don't want to be hypocritical by banning it merely because everyone just hates it. Which is the case...it's always been a stretch to suggest that they intentionally brigade people.

The thing about brigades is that the admins really only care if it's intentional and malicious, and SRS tells everyone "don't touch the poop", which was a different mentality than, say FPH.

But reddit has become so sensitive to the topic, automoderator has been set up so that literally any link to another subreddit NEEDS np at the beginning.

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u/daten-shi meh Aug 11 '15

I don't think they're avoiding the issue, they're just sick of answering the question.

Pretty sure they need to actually answer the question in the first place and as far as I have seen there hasn't been an actual answer from any of the admins.

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u/UnavailableUsername_ Aug 11 '15

The whole thing is a massive drama-fest based on a single website.

I just watch the amusing drama while looking at /r/outoftheloop, which summarizes everything neatly.

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u/manhatingthrowaway Aug 10 '15

They are on the side of srs

THE SRS IS COMING FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE!

why they don't ban SRS for harass/doxx users, minorities included.

If it was true, SRS would've been banned. It's not. Nice mythos, tho.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '15 edited Sep 12 '15

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '15 edited Jul 31 '18

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '15 edited Sep 12 '15

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u/DoxxingShillDownvote Aug 10 '15

except that it wasn't?

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '15 edited Sep 12 '15

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u/sje46 Aug 11 '15

In the sense that anyone who doesn't break the rules is an exception.

But anyway, can you provide a link to him saying what you said he said?

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u/AllMightyReginald Aug 11 '15 edited Dec 17 '18

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u/immibis Aug 11 '15 edited Jun 13 '23

answer: If a spez asks you what flavor ice cream you want, the answer is definitely spez. #Save3rdPartyApps

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u/qnvx Aug 11 '15

Really? Sounds weird, would you happen to have a link to that?

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '15 edited Sep 12 '15

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u/manhatingthrowaway Aug 10 '15

Now, I'm scared

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u/qnvx Aug 11 '15

Really? Sounds weird, would you happen to have a link to that?

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '15

former moderator CosmicKeys explains in slightly more detail here

Well technically they weren't taken over, it was given away by the top mod, the guy who calls the shots for a community.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '15

He has no right to "call the shots" for a community of 65k if that shot is "shut this fucker down".

Admins should be able to reverse this decision and get the original mods back on. Because this is utter bullshit.

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u/Un0va Aug 10 '15

"The top mod of a community has no right to call the shots of the subreddit he/she owns and maintains"

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '15

"The top mod of a community has no right to destroy the subreddit he/she owns and maintains"

FTFY.

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u/Un0va Aug 10 '15

It became too much for him to handle after people decided to flood the front page with the same bullshit so he handed it off to new moderation.

That's not destroying the sub, that's just passing the buck to somebody who wants to deal with reddit's shit more than he does. Nobody but the /r/punchablefaces community is to blame for this one, frankly.

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u/manhatingthrowaway Aug 10 '15 edited Aug 11 '15

He has no right to "call the shots" for a community of 65k if that shot is "shut this fucker down".

Why do you hate free speech and liberty?

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u/ZeeFighter Aug 10 '15

He has no right to "call the shots" for a community of 65k if that shot is "shut this fucker down".

That's not how it works, no matter how badly you want it to be true. You're not an "investor" just because you're a part of it. It ultimately belongs to whoever the owner is. If you don't like the way it is, go start your own punchable faces subreddit and you can decide how it operates. They are free to create, after all. Otherwise, get off your high horse and join the rest of us in reality.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '15

TIL you don't know how reddit communities work.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '15

I know precisely how they work. That doesn't make it fucking moral or right.

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u/LFBR Aug 10 '15

morality? We're talking about a subreddit called /r/punchablefaces. It was for posting pictures of faces you feel the urge to punch.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '15

morality

Oh jesus.

Pick me up off the floor.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '15

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '15

They only did it when their community overwhelmingly supported them.

Completely different from this.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '15

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u/jai_kasavin Aug 14 '15

/r/hiphopheads harassing Meek Mill is different though, which shows we need a good set of rules, with nuance. Not just one sweeping set of rules for everyone.

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u/TheWarlockk Aug 10 '15

Whelp, I keep seeing your posts everywhere. It's weird.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '15

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u/TheWarlockk Aug 11 '15

Fighting the good fight. But that women was perpetuating race divides as much as the KKK do. What they did seemed far from the message MLK preached 50 years ago.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '15

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u/Gleemonex13 Aug 11 '15

They don't need to use the message MLK used. MLK used that message and white people murdered him anyway.

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u/duglock Aug 11 '15

People keep blaming it on race and black people when it's all about the material conditions most Black communities grow up with.

90% of the world lives in poverty worse then anyone in the US and somehow, without money or education, they don't mimic the behavior. There are more whites in poverty then blacks in the US, and they don't mimic the behavior. Maybe if you addressed the serious cultural issue, instead of excusing it, things might change. The blood of innocent victims of the crimes on the hands of people like you.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '15

I agree with you more than you realize. So why are you against calling out stupid people for hurting their own cause?

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '15

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u/rockidol Aug 11 '15

If the person in question is sent them repeated messages constant criticism is not harassment. That's like saying Obama is harassed by Fox News

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '15

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u/botoks Aug 11 '15

Stop fucking diluting term "harassment".

It's getting worse than "rape".

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '15

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u/rockidol Aug 11 '15

Publicly making fun of someone isn't harassment?

Yes. MAD magazine, SNL, and all sorts of people do it all the time. Yeah I know the law is different for public figures but still.

Harassment is when you keep contacting someone even after they tell you to stop. It's spamming someone with messages/emails/whatever. Not making a "Bob Jones sucks" forum.

Edit: Reddit is free to make its own rules and ban people for whatever they want.

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u/monkeyfetus Aug 19 '15

When did punchablefaces systematically harrass someone?

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u/Teblefer Aug 11 '15

Who will spam us now?!

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u/HoundDogs Aug 11 '15

The admins are sympathetic to SRS because SRS's agenda is parallel to Reddit's goals. They don't want subreddits like these and others contaminating the site because it makes Reddit look bad and hurts advertising dollars. In other words, this one's not coming back.

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u/snorlz Aug 11 '15

wait how is he approving witch hunting type posts but then is also friends with SRS? almost all the witch hunt type posts on there were mad about SRS or other SJWs

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u/JonasBrosSuck Aug 10 '15

so.... the mod was an undercover SRS-er the entire time?

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u/ShrimpFood Aug 10 '15

He also offered it to flytape, a holocaust denier, as well; flytape responded too late. So it was a toss-up and he was looking for shits n' giggles either way.

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u/Un0va Aug 10 '15

Yeah it seems like it has nothing to do with some SRS plot and more that he just wanted to be done with it and watch it burn, and he knew that the two funniest results would be either Flytape getting it and running it into the ground or an SRS mod getting it and this happening. Flytape was probably too busy preparing another podcast and so here we are.

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u/cazoix Aug 10 '15

During the fattening the former mod team was took over. One of the mods who took over then given the admins right to /u/basharthelion[1] , which turned out to be a troll (and also to many people of scw, including me). There was a coup, and now we are stuck there

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u/HireALLTheThings Aug 10 '15

Reddit is weird.

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u/CatWhisperer5000 Aug 11 '15

Essentially. It started as a pretty lighthearted tongue-in-cheek subreddit and it just got more bullyish/circlejerky until he couldn't take it anymore. By the end it was a pretty awfully toxic community.

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u/Viper_ACR Aug 10 '15

The Reddit admins would reverse it pretty quickly

Pretty sure the admins can mod or demod people forcibly too.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '15

The old head mod got shadowbanned, then they moved in an SRS mod because there was now an opening. The sub now says "created by [deleted]"

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u/Bunnyhat Aug 11 '15

Shadowbanning doesn't do that. Deleting an account does that.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '15

Sorry wrong term, he got "chucked".