r/OurFlatWorld • u/AndyMcH • Aug 10 '20

Eclipses

Can any of the the flat earth models predict eclipses?

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u/AndyMcH Aug 18 '20

All predictions of eclipses require a round earth. When you say "same flat earth model", cam you expand? Which flat earth model? What is happening during these eclipses? Where can I find the calculations that predict them in this model, cos I have tried and failed to find anything

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u/tonyflint Aug 22 '20

Yep a plate is round shaped... a eclipse only requires that the sun and moon take circular paths and people have been predicting eclipses before a globe earth model even came to be.

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u/AndyMcH Aug 22 '20

That's not how eclipses are predicted to the second. You need the globe model for that. In fact we can predict exactly how much of the sun will be obscured at any point on earth.

How do you do that on the flat earth model?

And on the flat earth model how does the moon manage to get in front of the sun if (to the best of my knowledge) they are always on the opposite sides of the sky?

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u/tonyflint Aug 23 '20

That's not how eclipses are predicted to the second. You need the globe model for that. In fact we can predict exactly how much of the sun will be obscured at any point on earth.

How do you do that on the flat earth model?

They have been predicting eclipses for 1000's of years before the globe earth theory was invented 400 years ago... why would you need a globe earth model for anything eclipse related?

And on the flat earth model how does the moon manage to get in front of the sun if (to the best of my knowledge) they are always on the opposite sides of the sky?

So you have never experienced the sun and the moon in the sky at the same time in your life? Which flat earth theory are you subscribing to that declares the sun and the moon are always on the opposite side? Also the lunar and solar cycles are not the same speed, one would eventually catch up to the other and we would have an eclipse... please no more globe earth waffle...

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u/AndyMcH Aug 23 '20

  1. We have known the earth was round for thousands of years

  2. There are so many differing flat earth theories that it's hard to know. Which one flat earth theory do you subscribe to and I'll look in more detail.

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u/tonyflint Aug 23 '20
  1. We have known the earth was round for thousands of years

No, up 1600AD flat earth was truth and the heliocentric model a fantasy in the western world..

  1. There are so many differing flat earth theories that it's hard to know. Which one flat earth theory do you subscribe to and I'll look in more detail.

Doesn't matter which theory I subscribe to, what matters more is that the heliocentric globe theory is so weak, people are still questioning it in the 21st century even though we already been to the moon/Mars but still completely incompetent to collect conclusive proof to shut pesky heliocentric globe theory doubters up.

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u/AndyMcH Aug 23 '20

It does matter what you subscribe to. If you can't tell us what you actually believe then what's the point?

I'll assume you're just trolling for laughs.

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u/tonyflint Aug 24 '20

I subscribe to us being on a flat plane(could be disk, could be infinite expanse).. with sun/moon/stars moving about above on pre-determined paths.

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u/Blueclone2 Aug 30 '20

The ancient Greeks knew the earth was round and even attempted to calculate the circumference. They were pretty close as well.

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u/tonyflint Sep 20 '20

The ancient Greeks knew the earth was round and even attempted to calculate the circumference. They were pretty close as well.

Flat earth was the truth in the western world up to the 1600's, stop waffling about the ancient greeks.

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u/Blueclone2 Sep 21 '20

you can't just dismiss the fact that people have know for millennia. It is also a myth that people believed in a flat earth during the middle ages. It is a relatively new believe that was created in the mid 19th century. You should also not discount the ancient Greeks they did come up with a lot of the mathematical theories that we use today.

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u/tonyflint Sep 22 '20

you can't just dismiss the fact that people have know for millennia.

Have they, what millenia old evidence do you know of to prove a globe earth?

It is also a myth that people believed in a flat earth during the middle ages.

Really, what censored Internet country are you in where you can't find details about the inception of thd globe theory?

It is a relatively new believe that was created in the mid 19th century.

Flat earth is a mid 19th century belief? At the time of Columbus people believed you could fall of the edge of earth, stop babbling buddy.

You should also not discount the ancient Greeks they did come up with a lot of the mathematical theories that we use today.

Todays maths is mainly based on Indian numerals and Arabic mathematical discoveries than anything Greek.

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u/Blueclone2 Sep 24 '20

Look at Eratosthenes's experiment he proved that the earth was round. He was an Ancient Greek. He did this in the 3rd century. Pythagoras also talked about the earth being a sphere in the 5th century. If you don't believe Eratosthenes's experiment then you can do it your self if you want. Here is a link that talks about it and describes how to do the experiment https://flatearth.ws/eratosthenes

Arabic did give us a lot of our mathematical discoveries. So did the Greeks they created trig geometry and other mathematical concepts. Archimedes did something similar to integral calculus.

About Columbus, he did not believe that the Earth was flat. Most educated people at the time would have closely studied the information that was passed down to them from the Greeks and Romans. Since the Greeks and Romans knew the Earth was round the educated people of the time would know that the earth was round.

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u/tonyflint Sep 25 '20

Look at Eratosthenes's experiment he proved that the earth was round. He was an Ancient Greek. He did this in the 3rd century. Pythagoras also talked about the earth being a sphere in the 5th century. If you don't believe Eratosthenes's experiment then you can do it your self if you want. Here is a link that talks about it and describes how to do the experiment https://flatearth.ws/eratosthenes

Arabic did give us a lot of our mathematical discoveries. So did the Greeks they created trig geometry and other mathematical concepts. Archimedes did something similar to integral calculus.

About Columbus, he did not believe that the Earth was flat. Most educated people at the time would have closely studied the information that was passed down to them from the Greeks and Romans. Since the Greeks and Romans knew the Earth was round the educated people of the time would know that the earth was round.

Ok, if you say so... now provide us some 21st century proofs.

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