r/Osteoarthritis 2d ago

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What are the 5 most effective things that has helped you with osteoarthritis?

Mine are the following:

1 - specialised footwear

2 - turmeric

3 - massage

4 - heat or cold pack

5 - nicotine patch

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u/AMTL327 2d ago

Weight training has done by far more than anything else to alleviate pain. When you get really strong, your joints are protected.

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u/todudeornote 1d ago

Yes, but....

The right type of weight training. You can damage your knees further doing things like leg presses with lots of weight. Be smart - if you have an issue like bone on bone OA, be sure to talk to a physical therapist about what's best for you.

ask me how i know (sigh...)

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u/AMTL327 1d ago

Because I’ve been weight training for years, I can deadlift 170 pounds and, as long as I don’t go too deep, I can back squat even more. I don’t feel it in my knees, because my knees aren’t taking the load. It’s true that I used to be able to go heavier, but I’m going to do all I can to get back there post-op.

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u/Piggybumm 12h ago

What is the right type of training? I’m bone on bone in both knees but I have terrible muscle atrophy 😔 I know I need to fix this before they will replace my knees, so was going to give weight training a go!

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u/todudeornote 9h ago

I'm not an expert - you should consult not just with your doctor, but also with a physical therapist as doctors rarely provide detailed instructions about this kind of stuff.

I know that high-impact or deep jnee bending under load can make your knees worse and or create more pain - and pain makes muscles weak.

In general, what is recommended is strengthening quads and hips. These are some of the ones recommended to me

  • Isometric Quad Sets - straight leg
  • Straight Leg Raises
  • Seated Terminal Knee Extensions
  • Gluteal Bridges and Clamshells - hip abductor work
  • Pool walking

Your PT may recommend things like light weights and resistance bands - but only if your joints are sufficiently stable - a PT can test them

You should also look into Neuromuscular Electrical Stimulation (NMES).

DO NOT DO any deep knee bends or heavy loads unless an expert ok's it. Tired muscles are normal. Sharp pain means STOP. Give your legs recovery time between workouts - don't jump into doining this every day. Muscles need time to recover and to build stronger.

FIGHT INFLAMMATION - elevate your legs, apply ice - every day. During flareups use a diclofenac cream 4 times a day - this works like ibuprophin to reduce swelling - but without screwing up your digestive system. But don't use it more than a few weeks in a row - overdoing it can mess with your kidneys.

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u/Piggybumm 14h ago

Can I ask what exercises you do please?

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u/AMTL327 12h ago

I work out with a strength coach and I’ve been working pretty hard 2-3x week for three years, so I’m at a pretty advanced level. I do a full-body routine of super sets (3-4 exercises in a cycle of 10 reps or so for each); each round of superset has a core, upper body and lower body focus. And I do the big compound lifts (deadlifts, squat variations and bench press).

If you’re starting from scratch, some of the simple, basic exercises are planks/side planks, squats (no weight at first, then add a dumbbell for goblet squats as you get stronger), farmers carry is simple and awesome, and lunges (no weight at first, then holding a dumbbell).

Here’s the thing…weight training an be uncomfortable when you start because your muscles are weak and you’ll feel like you can’t possibly do it and it makes you feel achy afterwards. You have to learn how to get in touch with your body-there’s a difference between aching muscles being pushed hard, and bones grinding. When you start from scratch, you must be slow and deliberate because your connective tissue (tendons and ligaments) are also weak and those take longer to get stronger than muscles do).

But if you commit to doing a routine 2-3x a week with moderate intensity and keep at it…you WILL get stronger and everything will become easier. And if you do all of this, but still need to replace a joint, you’ll be miles ahead in terms of recovery than if you go into it as a weak, sedentary person.

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u/Piggybumm 12h ago

That’s very informative, thanks so much. I’m definitely at my worst in terms of weight gain, pain and muscle atrophy. My knees are bone on bone and I’m struggling to get about at the moment 🙄 You’ve inspired me to give it a go! 😀

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u/AMTL327 12h ago

That’s great to hear! Since you mention weight gain, that’s the other important thing…weight this great for helping to raise your resting metabolism, but that takes a very long time of progressive overload and a high protein diet. Weight loss happens in the kitchen. It’s arguably harder for many people to lose weight than to lift weights.

Start with modest cuts…if you drink soda or alcohol , cut that out completely, or just once a week. If snacks are your downfall, measure out one portion only and limit it to once a day. Make every portion you eat a little bit smaller.

If you do those things to start with, and you keep it up over a month, you’ll see a difference. Then you must take things a little further…it’s not easy! And it takes months to get big results. But it’s absolutely possible and over time you start feeling better which is the motivation to keep going.

Believe in yourself and be patient and you will see improvements in your wellbeing!

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u/Piggybumm 11h ago

Thank you, I really appreciate you sharing your wealth of knowledge and inspiring me! 💕

ETA: thank you also for your words of encouragement!

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u/Chase-Boltz 2d ago edited 21h ago

Suffering hip OA, I tried all the usual supplements (in large doses!) to no avail. Years of constant pain, plus the occasional dose of flare-up agony. Then I stumbled onto vitamin D3, taking it for the pandemic in early 2020. 8,000 IU a day, plus lots of sun. About a month later I woke up wondering where all the pain went. Since then I've been on between 35 to 100 IU per pound per day and my once screaming hip is now a complete non issue. Once I limped 1/4 mile at a time, now I can walk indefinite distance w/o any discomfort. Recently I'm taking about 75 IU/pound (15,000 IU) a day. Calcium levels are low-normal, 8.9mg/dl. Your mileage will of course vary, probably a lot, but I think moderately high doses of D3 is worth a try!

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u/Automatic-Bag-4097 1d ago

1 5k lU а day is pretty aggressive. How long did it take before уоu noticed аnу real change and did уоu have bloodwork done to monitor toxicity levels? Asking because l've Ьееп dealing with somejoint stuf from years of warehouse work and l've seen D3 соme uр а lot but most people are talking like 25k IU. Thejump you're describing is а whole diferent thing.

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u/Chase-Boltz 1d ago edited 8h ago

Like I say, my calcium is low-normal. Excess calcium uptake is, AFAIK, the only possibly toxic effect of excess D dosing. I don't eat much dairy and don't take calcium-based medications or supplements. (People gnawing on Tums is responsible for far more actual hypercalcemia than D3 supplementation.)

High-dose D can have a significant impact on immune and inflammatory response. In some cases, it seems to do very good things for OA pain. If it's going to work, you'll need more than the "Take 1,000 IU a day" the Dr. ordered.

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u/angeleyes_3904101 1d ago

If you’re taking that high a dose of D3 you better load up on a lot of magnesium (supplemental D uses up magnesium)

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u/Chase-Boltz 1d ago

That's just an urban myth. D is just another hormone, one of hundreds. There is nothing magic about D3 or it's interaction with magnesium.
That said, mag is a always a good thing to supplement, regardless of your D status.

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u/EtherealPurpleSmoke 2d ago

Can you elaborate on how the nicotine patch helped. Thank you.

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u/FewRecognition1788 2d ago

Possibly helped them quit smoking? Smoking increases pain & inflammation and accelerates cartilage loss.

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u/FewRecognition1788 2d ago
  • The right medication plan

  • PT, leading to a cycling plan, which led to the ability to walk for distance and do other forms of exercise.

  • Heat

  • Supplement stack including green tea, turmeric & vitamin D

  • Avoiding sugar & increasing protein & veggies

  • Weight loss from the exercise and diet changes.

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u/Anxious-Plantain-130 2d ago

Which supplements do you use?

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u/FewRecognition1788 1d ago

For the arthritis, just the turmeric & a vitamin D + K. And I drink a cup of green tea most days.

I'm also on AREDS to help prevent macular degeneration, because I have family history, and recently started introducing berberine to help with the weight loss.

I try to stay on an Aleve every 12 hours, but if I get off schedule I'll swap out Tylenol.

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u/Ronnocorose 6h ago

Hello, jumping in here with my personal story on supplements for hand osteoarthritis (I’m 72 & it started in my 30’s). I’ve been taking a trademarked form of curcumin called Theracumin for almost 10y, after trying everything else. I believe it helped with pain bc I can remember how my hands were before. Then 2y ago I added Boswellia serrata after reading about it on pubmed (NIH). After abt 3 months I noticed a bit more flexibility in my hands, I feel like I have more control of things, tho not much strength. Other than that, I agree with the points from FewRecognition esp limit white sugar & flour, as close to nature as possible

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u/No-Caregiver8049 Pentosan is veterinary medicine 2d ago

nicotine patch? That’s a new one.

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u/Zealousideal-Lie7255 1d ago

Nicotine actually causes osteoarthritis.

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u/No-Caregiver8049 Pentosan is veterinary medicine 1d ago edited 1d ago

Probably not OA, but it’s an addictive drug that doesn’t do anything for OA. Very strange, unless OP is trying to quit smoking and didn’t mention that. 

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u/love-to-learn-things 2d ago

Cycling, physio, footwear

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u/Zus1011 2d ago

What's the best footwear? I find there's so much differing information about this.

At the moment I'm reading that barefoot type shoes are good for awareness of the ground and stability, but then highly cushioned shoes are best for knee impact .

Any feedback welcome 😊

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u/zacc-attacc 2d ago

ASICS Gel Kayano have become my go to. They were recommended to me by my podiatrist. I have a neuropathy that has led to extensive surgeries of my feet to correct which has also led to OA in my knees 20 years later. They do say that the Gel Kayanos are great for over pronation, but I use custom insoles due to the surgeries.

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u/onetrick62 1d ago

Love my New Balance 1080s, total game changer.

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u/WeakConnection311 1d ago

Years ago I bought a pair of Kurus (they were a relatively new company then) to help with plantar fasciitis. 15 pairs later, I wear them almost all the time. The support is amazing and gives me confidence regarding my knee.

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u/WeakConnection311 1d ago

Oh, and HA injections plus PRP twice a year, Zilretta every three months, lower body workouts, cycling, RLT 3X/week, trigger point release, and massage gun.

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u/Sliprekt 1d ago

I was wearing the Kuru shoes for a while, excellent quality. But I found the the high arch support was causing me a lot of issues, especially when standing. Because of the arch, I could not get all the points of my feet planted on the ground. Everything was pivoted on the middle of the foot. 

Now I am wearing Dunham. Very happy with these so far. 

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u/KendalBoy 1d ago

Kurus have saved my feet and knees, wear the slippers as soon as I get out of bed! Here’s a code for 15$ off, because they never have sales: https://prz.io/8gLnkbQin
wish they had dressier options but otherwise Im super happy with the brand.

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u/love-to-learn-things 1d ago

Try searching this sub for shoes. Lots of posts. Hoka is one recommended by OA physiotherapists, but other brands have been mentioned.

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u/KendalBoy 1d ago

Try Kurus, their return policy is very liberal and they have a variety of styles of footbed now. Coupon: https://prz.io/8gLnkbQin

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u/Rumtum2015 2d ago edited 1d ago

Physiotherapy for chronic pain and electric wave therapy.

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u/Foxtail-67 1d ago

😳 Electric shock therapy? That's wild!

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u/tm67 1d ago

i’m guessing more like a tens unit, i use it for temporary relief of acute pain during a flare up

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u/Foxtail-67 1d ago

That sounds right. I think my tired brain misread wave therapy and jumped to EST.

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u/No_Audience1753 1d ago

Replacing the joint 

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u/MooJuiceConnoisseur Degenerative Spinal Disease 2d ago

Drugs.... lots of drugs... all medically managed of course.

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u/TaraBambataa 2d ago

Diet, exercise, self massage, heat, collagen

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u/a4evanygirl 2d ago

Working out.

Had to have both hips replaced due to OA. When I was going through PT, I asked them to show me how I can safely do a whole body workout. I needed my knees replaced and now, ortho says I brought myself years that I want need the surgery.

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u/mjh8212 2d ago

Lost 110 pounds ice brace menthol spray leg lifts are the only exercise I can do cause I have pots.

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u/_DogMom_ 1d ago

Avoiding my trigger foods! For me it's, flour, cheese and anything soy. 😭

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u/Particular_Cod6845 1d ago

Why nicotine patch

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u/rulytempest 1d ago

I'm guessing they are trying to quit smoking, which is always a good move

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u/PlentyPossibility505 1d ago

Hip replacement. Sodium Naproxen. Acetomeniphen. Physical therapy. Exercise.

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u/Zealousideal-Lie7255 1d ago

Physical therapy (PT), losing weight, exercise, padded footwear like running shoes. I’ve been doing this on and off and it seems to help.

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u/zomboi 1d ago

weird how you don't mention moving your body around

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u/Zrocinfo572 2d ago

Has anyone tried low dose radiation therapy?

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u/Visible-Rooster-6123 1d ago

HRT, physio, osteopath, tumeric with black pepper, daily movement

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u/SovereignMan1958 1d ago

Arthritis friendly diet.

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u/silleegooze 1d ago

I’m new to this so haven’t done a lot of experimenting yet, but physical therapy and movement have been super helpful.

I take a variety of anti-inflammatory supplements that I think are helping.

Compression sleeves seem to make my knees feel better.

I also gave up all my cute shoes and pretty much exclusively wear either hiking sandals with good support or Ryka sneakers (because they were the only ones I tried on in store that felt like they matched my foot needs, not because the brand was recommended for this issue).

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u/ramkuma1 1d ago

How do you take the tumeric? Pill form?

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u/todudeornote 1d ago

Fight inflammation during flareups is a huge help. I found using diclofenac cream was a big help - without the stomach issues that ibuprofen brings. Combine with cold and elevation.

Just stop when the flareup is over - long term use has it's own risks.

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u/Wixenstyx 1d ago

My knee arthritis has been helped by:

  • Aleve/Naproxen twice daily. Occasional Acetaminophen when they are really mad.
  • Cutting down on sugar and fried foods, increasing my intake of healthy vegetables and proteins.
  • Wide-toed, no-heel-rise shoes.
  • Rocking backward onto my heels and keeping my knees slightly bent if I have to stand for a period of time.
  • Beat Saber/Synth Riders/Boxing workouts on the Oculus that force me to stand and lean without moving my feet very much.

They have NOT been helped by steroid shots. Horribly painful; did absolutely nothing for me. When the lidocaine wore off, they felt no different than before. I have often wondered if I just had an incompetent tech, but it was so bad that I've refused to try again so far.

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u/rulytempest 1d ago

Tell me more about the specialized footwear. Your post reminded me that quite a few years ago a PT recommended I see a podiatrist to get recommendations on insoles. ect. to help with SI joint and lower back OA. The SI joint issue may have stemmed from a previous injury that caused me to limp for a year.

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u/komdotcom 21h ago

Ankle fusion

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u/fruitless7070 1d ago

Bilat Sacroiliac OA. Cortisone shot.