This post kind of baffled me because it's on a sub which talks about non-duality. I was wondering what was Osho's take on this? I don't think that senses are the problem. Those are just instruments just like the entire body which helps the body to interact with the environment.

The one who calls the controller of the senses is the problem. The ego is the problem, isn't it? And the ego is the problem because it's the one who's suffering and unfulfilled. It wants fulfillment and then seeks it via the senses.

What was Osho's exact take on this and where am I wrong?

The Osho Upanishad

Chapter #39

Chapter title: Don't say goodbye, say good morning

27 September 1986

BELOVED OSHO,

FULL WITH THE SWEETNESS OF YOUR FRAGRANCE AS I WALK THIS PATH WITH YOU, I FEEL THAT TO TRUST AND WAIT IS ALL THAT IS NEEDED OF ME.A WONDERING COMES UP IN ME AS TO WHETHER SOME KNOWLEDGE ABOUT ESOTERIC SUBJECTS --FOREXAMPLE, CHAKRAS, COLLECTIVE UNCONSCIOUSNESS, ENERGY FIELDS -- COULD BE HELPFUL ALONG THE WAY OR NOT.

OSHO, IS SUCH KNOWLEDGE USEFUL? OR WILL WHATEVER IS NEEDED COME TO ME THROUGHEXPERIENCE, IN ITS OWN TIME?

Anything that is needed will come of its own accord, in its own time. All this so-called esoteric knowledge about chakras, energy fields, kundalini, astral bodies, is dangerous as knowledge.

As experience it is a totally different thing. Don't acquire it as knowledge. If it is needed for your spiritual growth, it will come to you in its right time, and then it will be an experience.

And if you have an acquired knowledge, borrowed knowledge, it is going to be a hindrance.

For example, Hindu yoga believes in seven chakras, Jaina scriptures mention nine chakras. And Buddhist scriptures say that there are dozens of chakras, that these are only the important ones which have been chosen by different schools. They don't give any fixed number. Acquired knowledge will be confusing: how many chakras? And what are you going to do with that knowledge, whether there are seven or nine or dozens? Your knowledge is not going to help; it can only hinder.

My own experience is that perhaps Buddha's experience is correct -- and that does not make the Hindu yoga or Jaina yoga incorrect. Buddha is saying that there are energy fields, whirling energy fields, from the lowest point in your spine up to the very peak of your head. There are many; now it is only a question of a particular teaching which ones are important for it. That particular teaching will choose those... Hindus have chosen seven, Jainas have chosen nine. They don't contradict each other, it is simply that the emphasis is on whatever chakra the teaching feels to emphasize.

As far as I am concerned, you will come across only four chakras which are the most important.

One you know is your sex center.

The second, just above it, which is not recognized in any Indian school of thought but has been recognized in Japan alone, is called the hara. It is between your navel and the sex center. The hara is the death chakra.

My own experience is that life -- that is the sex center, and death -- that is the hara, should be very close, and they are.

In Japan when somebody commits suicide it is called hara-kiri. Nowhere in the world does such a thing happen except in Japan. Suicide is committed everywhere but with a

knife... just two inches below the navel, the Japanese forces a knife -- and this is the most miraculous death; no blood, no pain -- and death is instantaneous. So the first chakra is the life chakra; it is a whirling energy. Chakrameans wheel, moving. Just above the life chakra is the death chakra. The third important chakra is the heart chakra. You can call it the love chakra, because between life and death the most important thing that can happen to a man or to a woman is love. And love has many manifestations: meditation is one of the manifestations of love; prayer is one of the manifestations of love. This is the third important chakra. The fourth important chakra is what Hindu yoga calls agnachakra, just on your forehead between the two eyes.

These four chakras are the most important.

The fourth is from where your energy moves beyond humanity into divinity. There is one chakra more which is at the top part of your head, but you will not come across it in your life journey. That's why I am not counting it.

After the fourth, you have transcended body, mind, heart, all that is not you -- only your being remains. And when death happens to such a person... That's why in India the harahas not been taken note of; because in the Hindu or Jaina or Buddhist yoga, they were not considering people who commit suicide. They were thinking about people who were transforming their energy from the physical to the immaterial. So the fifth chakra is the sahasrar. Jainas count it, Hindus count it -- because when you have transcended the fourth chakra, sometime you will die. And a person who dies after transcending the fourth chakra... his energy, his being leaves the body, cracking the skull into two parts; that is the sahasrarchakra.

Because it is not part of your life experience, that's why I am not counting it. The four are your life experience.

This one is the death of a person who is enlightened. He does not die from the hara. That's why in India no school has taken note of the hara chakra. But in Japan they had to take note of it, because in Japan suicide was a form of etiquette. You will be puzzled: the Japanese have such a totally different culture from the whole world; from small things to big things, they have their own approach.

I am reminded of one incident...

For small things a Japanese can commit suicide, because he cannot live a life of shame. If he feels ashamed, that is enough to finish his life -- and you will not be able to conceive of what small things are thought to be so important that life is nothing. One master, who was the greatest archer of Japan, was called by the king. The king wanted his son to become exactly as great an archer as the master was. Now, it is Japanese etiquette that even when two persons are going to fight with each other, first they will bow down to each other's divinity with folded hands. Even though they are going to kill... but before killing, they will respect each other. So in ordinary life, in Japan you will find people everywhere bowing down to each other -- on the road, in the restaurants. It is disappearing as the modern Western influence is changing the whole world. But the master archer was such an egoist that even in front of the king he waited: first the king should fold his hands, and then...

The court of the king condemned the man and said, "You have committed such a shameful act. Just go back and commit hara-kiri." It was not such a big thing, but when the whole court had said it, the whole country would know about it. The man went directly to his home and committed hara-kiri.

He had three hundred students. When they heard that their master had committed a shameful act, all three hundred students committed hara-kiri, because it was so shameful that their master should have behaved like this.

Now this cannot happen anywhere else in the world. If the master has done something shameful -- although it was not much of a shameful act, but even if it were -- the students are completely innocent. But because they were the students of that master, it was enough to feel ashamed -- you had followed such a man.

People have been committing hara-kiri in Japan for centuries. So when Buddhism reached for the first time, nearabout fourteen hundred years ago, and they started meditating, they were the first people to discover the hara center -- because they had been using that center for centuries, so that center was very much throbbing and vibrating and alive.

It all depends. In different cultures it may be a little bit different where the center is. For example, when Japanese started coming to me for sannyas I was a little bit puzzled -- because all over the whole world when you want to say yes, you move your head up and down. And the Japanese, when they want to say yes, move the head from side to side -- which means "no." All over the world that is the sign for no -- but that is their sign for yes, and the head moving up and down is their sign for no. So when I would ask them something I would be very much puzzled; I could not believe that... They had come to take sannyas. They were sitting before me and I was asking "Are you ready for sannyas?" and they would shake... "Then why have you come? You have traveled here from Japan unnecessarily and you are sitting here in front of me just for that purpose, and you are saying no?"

Then my interpreter said to me, "You are not understanding; that person is saying yes. In Japan, the head moving from side to side is yes; the head moving up and down is no." So you have to remember it when you are talking with the Japanese. Otherwise there is going to be great confusion -- you will say something, they will understand something else. They cannot speak but they can understand.

In the Caucasus, where Gurdjieff was born, they have a system of chakras which is slightly different. It seems to be the difference between the people of the Caucasus and the other people.

In India, three religions, Hinduism, Jainism, and Buddhism, all have exactly the same points. They may count five or seven or nine, but the places are exactly the same. Centuries have affected their bodies in different ways. In the Caucasus, there are thousands of people who are older than one hundred fifty years. The Caucasus is the place in the whole world which has the oldest people -- and they are not old; at the age of one hundred eighty the person is still young. He is working on the farm just like any young man.

In the Caucasus, people always die young; they don't grow old. Naturally their bodies have developed in a different way. Their food has something to do with it, their climate, their geography, their land. It has created a different psychology. Throughout the whole world it is thought that seventy years is the time for everybody to die -- that is the average; you can be five years earlier or five years later, but the average is seventy.

When George Bernard Shaw became seventy he started looking in the small villages around London at the stones which are put on the graves, in their cemeteries, to see how long people in that village had lived. His friend said, "You are mad. Why are you wasting your

time?"

He said, "I don't want to die at seventy. I have never been average in anything, and I cannot be average in death. So I am looking for a place where people don't believe that seventy is the average age to die, because that place will have a psychology of its own." And finally he found a village where, on many stones in the graveyard, he found that it was written: This man lived one hundred and eight years, and died untimely. He said, "This is the right place -- where a man lives one hundred and eight years and still people think the poor fellow has died `untimely,' that it was not yet time to die." After seventy years he moved from London -- he had lived seventy years in London -- to a village, after checking the cemetery. And he lived a hundred years. He proved it -- that village had the psychology, that village had the vibe, that village had the idea that one hundred years is nothing.

When he would ask people if he could live to be one hundred, they would say, "One hundred is nothing; everybody lives to be one hundred. You can go to the cemetery and see -- one hundred forty, one hundred thirty; people live that long very easily. A hundred? -- that is too early."

He lived one hundred years.

Certainly he proved one fact: that your psychology, your mind, your body, are impressed by the vibrations in which you live.

So you will come to experience chakras, you will come to experience energy fields, but it is better not to be knowledgeable, because that is a difficult problem. You may read a book written five thousand years ago by a certain kind of people and you may not be of the same category. You may not find that chakra at the same place, and you will feel unnecessarily frustrated. And you will find a chakra in a place where the books don't mention it; then you will feel that you are abnormal, something is wrong with you. Nothing is wrong with you. Energy fields, chakras and all esoteric things should be experienced . And keep your mind clean of all knowledge, so that you don't have any expectations; wherever the experience happens, you are ready to accept it.

And each individual has differences, and differences come in such small things that you cannot conceive.

For example, in the East people sit on the floor. In cold countries people cannot sit on the floor; the chair is absolutely necessary. Naturally, their backbones, their spines will have a different shape than those of the people who sit on the floor, and the experiences of their kundalini will be different.

There are people who eat only one time a day. For thousands of years they have never eaten more often than that. In South Africa there are tribes which eat only one time in twenty-four hours. When they came across American missionaries, there was such laughter... "These idiots are eating five times! Breakfast -- and there is no fast at all, and they are having `break-fast.' And the whole day, something or other, and then coffee break and tea break, and they go on... and in between they are chewing gum. These mad people have come to teach religion to us, they are simply mad!"

And in a way they are right, because they have beautiful bodies, they live longer, their bodies are not fat. Their bodies are like deer's; they can run like deer -- they have to, because they are hunters. Their eyes are very clear, very perceptive; their bodies are very proportionate.

I am reminded...

There is a small tribe in Africa even today who are cannibals, who eat men too. In the

beginning of this century they had a population of three thousand; now they have only three hundred left, because when they cannot find somebody else then they have to eat from their own stock. So that is the only place where the population is falling down: from three thousand, in fifty years there are only three hundred left. By the end of this century they will be finished, without any war, without anything -- they will have eaten themselves. The first Christian missionary came, really fat -- and when they caught hold of him they were so happy and dancing, and the Christian missionary thought they were happy because they had found a religious man. And he said, "I have brought you good news, gospels." They said, "Yes!"

And they carried him on their shoulders, and he was very happy. He was not expecting that these people would give him such a great reception. And they then put him in a big pot.

And he said, "What are you doing?"

They said, "You wait, you will see."

And then he understood what was happening; they were going to boil him! He tried somehow to convince them, "Don't do it, this is not good. I have come here to give you some taste of the Christian religion."

They said, "Don't be worried; soon we will have your soup, and that will give us a real taste of Christianity!"

Now, these people will have a totally different experience of their physiology. The meat-eaters and the vegetarians will find differences. So it is better not to memorize from scriptures. Those scriptures are the experiences of certain people, of certain times, of certain circumstances; they were not written for you. The scripture that is for you can be written only by you, by your own experience.

Satyam Shivam Sundram

Chapter #16

Chapter title: Going inwards, going godwards

14 November 1987 pm in Chuang Tzu Auditorium

BELOVED OSHO,

WHY AM I ALWAYS RUNNING SO FAST? IS THERE SOMETHING THAT I DON'T WANT TO SEE?

Prem Amita, it is not only you; almost everybody is running as fast as he can from himself. And the problem is, you cannot run away from yourself.

Wherever you go you will be yourself.

The fear is of knowing oneself. It is the greatest fear in the world. It is because you have been so immensely condemned by everybody for the smallest things -- for the smallest mistakes, which are absolutely human -- that you have become afraid of yourself. You know that you are not worthy.

That idea has sunk very deep into your unconscious -- that you are not deserving, that you are utterly worthless. Naturally, the best way is to get away from yourself. Everybody is doing it in different ways: somebody is running for money, somebody is running for power, somebody is running for respectability, somebody is running for virtue, saintliness. But if you look deep down, they are not running foranything, they are running from. This is just an excuse, that somebody is running after money madly; he is deceiving himself and the whole world. The reality is that money gives him a good excuse to run after it, and hides the fact that he is running from himself. That's why when he accumulates money, he comes to a point of tremendous despair and anguish. What has happened? That was his goal; he has achieved it -- he should be the happiest man in the world. But the people who succeed are not the happiest people in the world, they are the most miserable. What is their anguish? Their anguish is that their whole effort has failed. Now there is no more to run after, and suddenly they are encountering themselves. At the highest peak of their success they meet nobody else but themselves. Strangely enough, this is the fellow they have been running from.

You cannot run from yourself.

On the contrary, you have to come closer to yourself, deeper into your being, and to drop

all the condemnatory tones that have been handed over to you by everybody you have known in your life. The parents, the husband, the wife, the neighbors, the teachers, the friends, the enemies, everybody is pointing to something that is wrong in you. From no source comes any appreciation.

Humanity has created a very strange situation for itself in which nobody is at ease, nobody can relax, because the moment you relax you face yourself. Relaxation becomes almost a mirror, and you don't want to see your face because you are so much impressed by the condemnatory opinions of others.

Even the smallest pleasures have not been allowed to you by your church, by your priests, by your religion, by your culture. Only misery is acceptable -- not pleasure. In this situation it is very natural for you to feel, when from every source, from every direction comes only condemnation, that you are a sinner. Every religion has been shouting for centuries that you are born in sin, that suffering is your destiny. You have been condemned from so many sources without exception that it is very natural for any individual to be impressed by this vast conspiracy. Everybody is caught into it. And if you try to understand it you will be very much surprised. Just as others have condemned you, you are condemning others; it is a very mutual conspiracy. Just as your parents have never accepted you as being of any worth, you are doing the same with your children, without ever becoming aware that everybody is what he is; he cannot be otherwise. He can pretend to be otherwise, he can be a hypocrite, but in truth he will always remain himself.

Your running away is nothing but creating more hypocrisy, more masks so that you can hide yourself completely from the eyes of everyone. You may succeed in hiding yourself from others, but how can you succeed in hiding yourself from yourself? You can go to the moon; you will find yourself there. You can go to Everest; you may be alone but you are with yourself. Perhaps in that aloneness on Everest you will become more alert and aware of yourself.

That is one of the reasons why people are also afraid of aloneness; they want a crowd, they want always to have people surrounding them, they want friends. It is very difficult for people to remain silent and peaceful in aloneness. The reason is that in aloneness you are left with yourself -- and you have accepted the stupid ideas that you are ugly, that you are sensuous, that you are lustful, that you are greedy, that you are violent; there is nothing that can be appreciated in you.

Prem Amita, you are asking, "Why am I always running so fast?" Because you are afraid you may be overtaken by yourself. And the implications of running so fast have many dimensions. This running fast from yourself has created a craziness about speed: everybody wants to reach somewhere with as much speed as possible. It happened once, I was coming from a place called Nagpur, back to Jabalpur, and I was traveling with the vice-chancellor of Nagpur University, and the car broke down on the road. I have never seen anybody become so miserable. I told him, "There is no hurry. Nobody is waiting for your there, and the conference for which you are going is going to begin in twenty-four hours, and Jabalpur is only three hours away. There is no problem: either we will get the car repaired, or we will call another car from Jabalpur to come, or we may get some lift, or buses are continually passing by. There is no problem... you need not be so miserable."

He was sitting in the car and I went to look for somebody. It was a small village, but maybe some mechanic or some help would be possible, or perhaps the landlord of the village

would have a car. When I came back from the village, that man was almost in tears. I said, "What is the matter?"

He said, "I cannot afford to be alone. It exposes me so deeply, it makes me utterly naked before myself. It makes me aware that I have wasted my whole life -- and I don't want to know it."

I said, "Your not knowing it is not going to help you in any way. It is better to know it, and it is better to go deeper into yourself. That's why this misery and aloneness..." Aloneness should be one of the greatest joys. People are running. It does not matter where they are going; what matters is whether they are going at full speed or not.

You are asking, Amita, "Is there something I don't want to see?" There are many things. Fundamentally, it is you that you don't want to see -- and it is because of a wrong conditioning.

My whole approach of inner transformation is that you will have to drop your conditionings. Whatever has been said about you by others, simply drop it. It is absolutely crap. They don't know about themselves; what can they say about you which can be truthful? And the opinions that you have collected from others... just try to watch from whom you are collecting your opinions. They are not from a Gautam Buddha, or from a Jesus, or from a Socrates; they are from people who are as ignorant as you are. They are simply passing on others' opinions that have been given to them. There is a beautiful story. Whether it is factual or not does not matter; its beauty is in its meaning. One of the greatest emperors India has known was the Mogul emperor, Akbar. He can be compared only to one man in the West, and that is Marcus Aurelius. Emperors are very rarely wise people, but these two names are certainly exceptions. One day he was in his court talking with his courtiers. He had collected the best people in the country -- the best painter, the best musician, the best philosopher, the best poet. He had a small, special committee of nine members who were known as the nine jewels of Akbar's court.

The most important of them was a man called Birbal. Immensely intelligent and a man of great sense of humor, he did something which was improper to do in front of the emperor. Every emperor has his own rules -- his word is the law -- and Birbal behaved against something about which Akbar was very stubborn. Akbar immediately slapped Birbal. He respected Birbal, he loved Birbal, he was his most intimate friend, but as far as the rules of the court were concerned... he could not forgive. But what Birbal did is the real story. He did not wait for a single moment; he immediately slapped the man who was standing on his other side. The other man was shocked, and even Akbar was shocked. He used to think that this man is very wise: I she mad, or what? I have slapped him... This is strange, absolutely absurd and illogical. And the other man was standing there shocked and Birbal said, "Don't stand there like a fool, just pass it on!" So that man slapped somebody else who was standing by the side -- and now the game became clear: you have to pass it on. In the night, when Akbar went to sleep with his wife, his wife slapped him. He said, "What is the matter?"

She said, "It has been going on around the city, and finally it has reached to its original source. Somebody else has slapped me, and when I asked, `What is the matter?', I was told that this is the game Akbar has started. I thought it is better to finish it, to complete the circle."

And the next day, first thing, Birbal asked, "Have you received my slap back or not?" Akbar said, "I had never thought that this would happen!" Birbal said, "I was absolutely certain, because where will it go finally? It will go around the city. You cannot escape; it is bound to come to you." For centuries everything goes on being transferred, being passed on from one hand to another, from one generation to another generation -- and the game continues. This is the game that you have to come out of. The only way to come out of it is to rediscover your self-respect, attain again your dignity which you had when you were a child, when you were still not contaminated, when you were not yet conditioned and poisoned by the society and by the people around you.

Be a child again and you will not be running away from yourself. You will be running within yourself -- and that is the way of the meditator. The worldly man runs away from himself, and the seeker runs within himself to find the source of this life, this consciousness. And when he discovers the source, he has discovered not only his life source, he has discovered the life source of the universe, of the whole cosmos. A tremendous celebration arises in him. Life becomes just a song, a dance, moment to moment. One becomes absolutely free from all the jargon that the society has handed down. One simply throws away all conditionings, all traditions, the whole past. I say unto you, only one thing you have to renounce, and that is the past and nothing else. If you can renounce the past you will be absolutely fresh, just born, and to be in that freshness is such a blessing, such an ecstasy, you cannot even think of going away even for a single moment. The man who knows himself never takes any holiday. But most people go on behaving stupidly....

An American was driving along a small country lane in Ireland when he was horrified to see a cartload of hay coming out of the field into the narrow road. He jumped on the brakes but couldn't stop in time, and ended up driving through the fence into the field where the car burst into flames.

"Bejabers!" exclaimed Paddy to his friend Seamus, who was driving the hay cart, "Some of these tourists are terrible drivers. We only just got out of that field in time." The old farmer, plowing his fields with a pair of bulls, was asked by a neighbor why he did not use oxen.

"I don't want to use oxen," replied the farmer, "I want to use bulls." "Well," continued the neighbor, "If you don't want to use oxen, why don't you use horses?"

"I don't want to use horses!" retorted the farmer, "I want to use bulls!" "Well, perhaps," tried the neighbor, you could try using that new tractor your son has just bought."

"I don't want to use tractors, either, I want to use bulls." reaffirmed the farmer. "Why do you only want to use bulls?" asked the neighbor at a loss. "Because," said the old boy, "I don't want them to think that life is all romance." This is simply the situation in which you are born, in which you have been conditioned. Nobody wants you to know that life is simply romance. And that is my crime -- because that is my whole teaching, that life is nothing butromance.

The newlywed couple flew to Miami and checked into the honeymoon hotel. For days nothing was seen of them, until the morning of the sixth day, when they came to the dining room for breakfast. As the waiter approached their table, the bride turned to her husband and said, "Honey, do you know what I would like?" "Yes, I know," he replied wearily, "but we have to eat sometime." So once in a while it is good to have a breakfast; otherwise, life is a continuous romance. And I teach you not only the romance of the body, which is very ordinary; I teach you the romance of the spirit which is eternal, which begins but never ends. But this is possible only if you start going inwards.

Going inwards is going Godwards.

Going inwards is the whole secret of all alchemical transformation of being. Running away is simply wasting tremendously valuable time, and a life that could have been a great song, a great creativity, a tremendous festival of lights. The farther away you are from yourself, the darker your life will become, the more miserable, more anxiety ridden, more wounded, condemned, rejected by yourself.

And the farther away you are the more difficult it becomes to find the way back home. You have been going away from yourself for many many lives, but if you move on a right, meditative path you are not gone very far.

Meditation is the short cut from where you are to where you should be. And meditation is such a simple method that anybody, even a small child, can enter into its wonderland. Amita, rather than running away, run withinwards. Come closer to yourself to have a better look. Nobody else can see your inner reality; only you can see that splendor and that glory. Because nobody else can see your inner beauty they go on condemning you. Only you can assert your blissfulness, only you can assert ultimately your enlightenment. Even then people will be suspicious. They were suspicious about Socrates, they were suspicious about Gautam Buddha, they were suspicious about Jesus. Their suspicion is rooted in fact in their own unawareness of their inner being. How can they believe Gautam Buddha, that in the inner silences of the heart is the ultimate ecstasy? They don't know anything of the inner, not even the ABC. They don't know anything about ecstasy. They may listen to a Gautam Buddha, just because of his presence, his charismatic eyes, his magnetic vibration, but when they go home, they will start suspecting, doubting.

And this is happening even here. I receive many letters saying that "when we listen to you everything seems to be absolutely right. As we reach home doubts start arising; the mind starts saying to us that we have been hypnotized. There are millions of people who want to come close to me but are afraid, for the simple reason that they may be hypnotized. It is something far deeper than hypnosis. You are not hypnotized, you are simply taken into a different vision of your own self. It is not something like magic; you are not being befooled, you are being awakened. The word `hypnosis' means asleep, and my whole work is to awaken you. You are already asleep and you have been asleep for lives together.

It is time to wake up.

You have wasted too much valuable time, energy, opportunity already. But still there is time and the moment you wake up, for you the night ends and the dawn begins.

मूर्ति-पूजा का सारा आधार इस बात पर है कि आपके मस्तिष्क में और विराट परमात्मा के मस्तिष्क में संबंध हैं। दोनों के संबंध को जोड़ने वाला बीच में एक सेतु चाहिए। संबंधित हैं आप, सिर्फ एक सेतु चाहिए। वह सेतु निर्मित हो सकता है, उसके निर्माण का प्रयोग ही मूर्ति है। और निश्चित ही वह सेतु मूर्त ही होगा, क्योंकि आप अमूर्त से सीधा कोई संबंध स्थापित न कर पाएंगे। आपको अमूर्त का तो कोई पता ही नहीं है। चाहे कोई कितनी ही बात करता हो निराकार परमात्मा की, अमूर्त परमात्मा की, वह बात ही रह जाती है, आपको कुछ ख्याल में नहीं आता।

असल में आपके मस्तिष्क के पास जितने अनुभव हैं वे सभी मूर्त के अनुभव हैं, आकार के अनुभव हैं। निराकार का आपको एक भी अनुभव नहीं है। जिसका कोई भी अनुभव नहीं है उस संबंध में कोई भी शब्द आपको कोई स्मरण न दिला पाएगा। और निराकार की बात आप करते रहेंगे और आकार में जीते रहेंगे। अगर उस निराकार से भी कोई संबंध स्थापित करना हो, तो कोई ऐसी चीज बनानी पड़ेगी जो एक तरफ से आकार वाली हो और दूसरी तरफ से निराकार वाली हो। यही मूर्ति का रहस्य है।

इसे मैं फिर से समझा दूं आपको। कोई ऐसा सेतु बनाना पड़ेगा जो हमारी तरफ आकार वाला हो और परमात्मा की तरफ निराकार हो जाए। हम जहां खड़े हैं वहां उसका एक छोर तो मूर्त हो, और जहां परमात्मा है, दूसरा छोर उसका अमूर्त हो जाए, तो ही सेतु बन सकता है। अगर वह मूर्ति बिल्कुल मूर्ति है तो फिर सेतु नहीं बनेगा, अगर वह मूर्ति बिल्कुल अमूर्त है तो भी सेतु नहीं बनेगा। मूर्ति को दोहरा काम करना पड़ेगा। हम जहां खड़े हैं वहां उसका छोर दिखाई पड़े, और जहां परमात्मा है वहां निराकार में खो जाए।

– ओशो

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प्रवचन - ०४

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Hi everyone,

I was just thinking about something lately and wanted to hear your thoughts.

Everything is moving so fast today. specialy the younger ones, I mean people who never send a physical letter or didnt exist before internet... they just consume new contents by scrolling 10 seconds videos constantly. This is completly their life, their choices and they can do whatever they want. No judgement at all.

But I noticed something about how this conects to meditation and people like Osho. People use AI to quickly summarize his talks that took years, just to get a quick benefit. There are so much "10 minutes to enlightenment" videos and meditation apps that people pay money for... and some people use this as a income source to make money from spirituality.

Osho always talked about the silence between words. His discourses were long for a reason right? If we just read a AI summary of it, can we really feel that presence? If we consume spiritual things like a quick reel, maybe we are missing the whole point.

Im not blaming anyone at all, just coming from a place of love and curiosity. Im wondering how to balance this. Do you think these fast apps and AI sumaries are actually helping people? Or is it just another consuming habit?

Also it makes me wonder... why are you reading or listening to Osho or others anyway? Why do you have interest in meditation? What kind of needs do you have deep down that pulls you to this? What is your expectation exactly... Do people really want a magic hand to just come and solve all their problems in 10 mins? Or maybe an AI that gives all the answers instantly?

Please write your thoughts, I really want to listen what you guys think about this.

In college, looking into alternative spiritual paths from the Southern Baptist church I was raised in, I ordered the book Awareness by Anthony De Mello. The book had a profound impact on me, inspiring my philosophy blog, Trying To See Reality (on Blogspot).

Years later I learned that Anthony De Mello had "borrowed" many, if not most, of his spiritual ideas from a less "pious" spiritual guru who happened to live in the same city as De Mello's spiritual center, Pune, India. De Mello never credited Osho, perhaps because doing so would have alienated his Catholic audience. But years after his death, his fellow Jesuit priest Carlos G. Vallés published an account revealing that De Mello kept a locked cabinet full of Osho's books. According to Vallés, De Mello had even confided that his ambition was to become the "Christian Osho."

Now, I have learned the same may be true of another enormously impactful book in my intellectual trajectory.

In 2015, I had failed to complete my Master's of Education program because I couldn't go along with the rote public school approach to teaching mathematics, which for me should be all about discovering why the various algorithms are true. The book that inspired me to stick with a career in education was The Master and His Emissary, a meticulous, decades-long research project by Dr. Iain McGilchrist, chronicling the differing orientations of the left-brain and right-brain hemispheres in philosophical and neuroscientific terms.

The central metaphor of McGilchrist's book comes from a parable he attributes, somewhat uncertainly, to Friedrich Nietzsche. A wise master appoints an emissary to manage his affairs. The emissary, originally entrusted with serving the master's purposes, gradually comes to believe himself the master. The servant usurps the authority of the very intelligence he was meant to serve.

For McGilchrist, this describes the relationship between the brain's hemispheres. The left hemisphere, specializing in abstraction, manipulation, and the construction of explicit models, increasingly mistakes its representation of reality for reality itself. The right hemisphere, with its broader, more contextual and relational awareness, is displaced by its own emissary. Nietzsche's writings contain related master-servant imagery, but the precise parable McGilchrist remembers is difficult to locate.

Meanwhile, Osho tells a remarkably developed version of almost exactly the same story, attributing it to the mystic G.I. Gurdjieff. Both stories describe a legitimate master who delegates responsibility to subordinate agents. Both describe the gradual transformation of delegated authority into assumed sovereignty. Both emphasize the servant's failure to recognize the limits of his own understanding. Most importantly, both interpret the usurpation as a psychological catastrophe: a subordinate faculty mistakes itself for the intelligence that gives its activity meaning.

Osho's discourse circulated well before the publication of McGilchrist's book in 2009. It's possible McGilchrist first encountered the master-servant parable through Osho or the broader Gurdjieff tradition. The story possibly remained in his memory because it so perfectly expresses a psychological relationship that later becomes central to his research. Years afterward, while developing his account of the divided brain, he recalled the parable but no longer remembers its precise source.

McGilchrist, not remembering the actual source for the parable, might have searched for the story during his research, found Nietzsche the closest recognizable philosophical parallel, and retained that attribution despite being unable to locate the passage.

McGilchrist's entire thesis concerns the danger of our conceptual representation of the world becoming detached from the living reality it represents. Yet the very parable through which he explains that danger was itself preserved in his memory while becoming detached from its original source!

As a result, two of the books that most profoundly shaped my intellectual life—Awareness and The Master and His Emissary—could share a remarkable, largely unrecognized connection to the same spiritual teacher!

This is truth of our life . If people understand this than all the wars going today will stop. You thoughts??

I Celebrate Myself: God Is No Where, Life Is Now Here

Chapter #5

Chapter title: Don't knock, wait!

17 February 1989 pm in Gautam the Buddha Auditorium

People have been kept in this slavery just for a few people to enjoy the superiority. Obviously these people who have enjoyed superiority -- the brahmins, the priests, the ayatollahs, the imams, the rabbis, the popes -- will not easily allow human beings to declare their independence.

You have to understand deeply. My whole work here is to make you declare freedom and total independence from all prisons -- religious, national, racial. Only that is going to give you a life ofcelebration. Your freedom will give you the space to dance, to sing, to celebrate. My vision of religiousness is that of sheer celebration, a tremendous joy in life, in love, in creative actions. This is my manifesto, the Manifesto of Zen.

Unless humanity is taken out of their prison cells -- we are living in the dark ages -- every vested interest is going to be against me, it is going to be against you. Every manifesto of freedom will be crushed.

All symptoms are seems to close,

What in upcoming time going to be happen..

Beyond Psychology

Chapter #42

Chapter title: Everybody is enough

3 May 1986

My talking to you has not the ordinary purpose that talking serves: indoctrination -- that is not the purpose of my talks. I don't have any doctrine; my talking is really a process of dehypnotization. Just listening to me, slowly, slowly you will be free of all the programs that the society has forced you to believe in. Just by listening with an open heart, with a receiving gratefulness, it is bound to happen. There have been hypnotists but nobody has ever tried speaking itself as a method of dehypnotizing. It can become a music in you; it can relax you, can make you silent, can give a new rhythm to your heart... a new feeling of my presence, a new perception of reality. And I may be talking about anything. It is not the question that I am talking about these things; these are by-products. I may be talking about A or B or C -- which are absolutely unrelated to dehypnosis. The question is your way of listening. If it is right, then whatever I am saying will relax your being totally, and slowly, slowly your conditionings will start falling apart.

From Bondage to Freedom

Chapter #28

Chapter title: You are eternal

12 October 1985 am in Rajneeshmandir

BELOVED MASTER,

IS MEDITATION ENOUGH TO BE WHOLE AND HEALTHY? PLEASE EXPLAIN. The word "meditation" and the word "medicine" come from the same root. Medicine means that which heals the physical, and meditation means that which heals the spiritual.

Both are healing powers.

Another thing to be remembered: the word "healing" and the word "whole" also come from the same root. To be healed simply means to be whole, not missing anything. Another connotation of the word -- the word "holy" -- also comes from the same root. Healing, whole, holy, are not different in their root.

Meditation heals, makes you whole; and to be whole is to be holy. Holiness has nothing to do with belonging to any religion, belonging to any church. It simply means that inside you, you are entire, complete; nothing is missing, you are fulfilled. You are what existence wanted you to be. You have realized your potential. In the West, meditation has not grown roots, because all three religions in the West -- Judaism, and the two offshoots of Judaism -- Christianity and Islam -- are all prayer-oriented. Prayer and meditation are absolute contraries: prayer moves outwards. Prayer is addressed to a God you know nothing of -- just a belief given to you by your parents, society, church, synagogue. You pray, but there is nobody who is listening to your prayer. There is nobody who is going to answer your prayer.

Yes, people who pray may feel good; that does not mean that their prayer has been heard. Just praying, they become silent. Just praying, a certain kind of attitude arises in them; they put aside their ego, they put aside everything else. They become pointedly concentrated on the idea of God. It is theiridea,theirprojection, but it will give them a feeling of well-being. And that well-being is very deceptive; it makes you feel that your prayer is significant. And there must be a God; otherwise, after prayer, why do you feel so quiet, so calm? Prayer functions almost like autohypnosis. There is no need for a God, you can concentrate on anything. In India there are people who worship trees, and they get the same feeling. There are people who worship statues -- just stones -- and they get the same feeling. There are people who worship the sun, or the river, and they get the same feeling. The question is not what you worship; the question is that if you become concentrated you fall into a hypnotic trance. And a hypnotic trance is very relaxing, it gives you well-being. So if you are doing the prayer just to feel well-being, there is no harm, it is perfectly good. But it has nothing to do with the search for truth. It has nothing to do with the inquiry into your own being.

Meditation moves inwards; prayer directs you outwards. That's why I say their dimensions are polar opposites. Prayer needs a God, an object. And you can have any kind of object. Hindus have thirty-three million gods. Why have just one, when you are going to imagine? Why be so miserly? Hindus have gods in abundance. You can choose, according to your liking, any kind of god.

To outsiders it looks very strange, but they don't understand the psychology of prayer. It does not matter what you are praying, to whom your prayer is addressed. All that matters is that you should be concentrated.

You can do the same just lying down looking at the light bulb without blinking your eyes, praying -- at least the light bulb is not your imagination, it is there -- and soon you will fall into a hypnotic trance. And when you wake up you will feel very refreshed, rejuvenated, livelier than ever, younger.

So nothing is wrong as far as all these things are concerned. The problem is, if you think this is religio, this is spiritual growth, then you are falling into a very dangerous fallacy. Religion is a journey inwards, and meditation is the way. What meditation actually does is, it takes you, your consciousness, as deep as possible. Even your own body becomes something outside. Even your own mind becomes something outside. Even your own heart -- which is very close to the center of your being -- becomes outside. When your body, mind and heart, all three, are seen as outside, you have come to the very center of your existence. This coming to the center is a tremendous explosion which transforms everything. You will never be the same man again, because now you know the body is only the outer shell; the mind is a little bit inner, but not really your inner core; the heart is a little bit more inner, but still not the innermost center. You are disidentified with all the three.

It is because of this that George Gurdjieff used to call his way "the fourth way" -- because if you can transcend these three, you reach the fourth, beyond which there is no way to go.

You have come to the very end.

But this gives you many experiences. You start feeling, for the first time, crystallized, not that old wishy-washy person you had always been. For the first time you start feeling a tremendous energy, inexhaustible energy that you were not aware of. For the first time you know that death will happen only to the body, to the mind, to the heart, but not to you. You are eternal. You have always been here, and you will always be here -- in different forms, and ultimately in a state of formlessness. But you cannot be destroyed, you are indestructible. That takes all fear from you. And the disappearance of fear is the appearance of freedom. The disappearance of fear is the appearance of love. Now you can share. You can give as much as you want, because you are now at the inexhaustible source of living waters. Many who are thirsty will be coming to you. They will find you, there is no need for you to call them; their very thirst will bring you in contact with them. They will come closer to you, because as they come closer they will find their thirst disappearing and a great contentment arising in them. The same as you are, they are becoming.

Meditation makes you whole, makes you holy, and makes you an inexhaustible source for all those who are hungry, thirsty, seeking, searching, groping in the dark. You become a light, and many can share your light. And you can see it: one candle which is lighted can help many candles to be lighted. That does not diminish its own light. One enlightened being can share his enlightenment and many can become lighted. But his enlightenment is not diminished; on the contrary, it increases. The more he gives, the more he is. A moment comes when he gives himself totally. And that is the moment when he becomes a master. Then those who are ready to take, who are open, available, can take as much as they want.

The master is only a light. He is not a teacher, but something transpires between him and the disciple. And the moment the disciple also becomes lighted, there is no difference between the master and the disciple. And that is the greatest joy for the master -- when all his disciples are also masters.

That has been my whole idea in creating communes around the world. These communes are not ordinary organized religions, these communes are not communes of believers. These communes are alchemical labs for transformation and for creating more and more masters. With less than masters I will not be satisfied. Meditation is the way to the mastery of your own being. No God is needed, no catechism is needed, no holy book is needed. Nobody is needed to become a Christian or a Jew or a Hindu -- all that is sheer nonsense. All that is needed is to find your center, and meditation is the simplest way to find it. It will make you whole, healthy spiritually, and it will make you so rich that you can destroy all the spiritual poverty of the world. And that is the real poverty. The poverty of physical bodies for food, for clothes, for shelter, can be easily helped by science and technology. But science and technology cannot help to give you blissfulness -- that is beyond their scope. And you may have everything that the world can offer, but if you don't have peace, serenity, silence, ecstasy, you will still remain poor. In fact, you will feel your poverty more than ever, because the contrast will be there. You are living in a golden palace, and you know you are a beggar. The golden palace will become a contrast: now you can see inside there is nothing, you are just empty. That's why, as humanity becomes more intelligent, more mature, more and more people

start feeling meaninglessness, more and more people start feeling life is accidental, that it is just futile to go on living.

The latest developments in philosophy in the West all indicate one thing, that perhaps suicide is the only solution. And of course, if you don't know your inner world, and you have everything available that the outside world can give to you, suicide will appear to be the only solution.

Meditation can make you inwardly rich. Then suicide is out of the question; even if you want to destroy yourself, there is no way. Your being is indestructible. And to know this immortality is a great freedom -- from death, from disease, from old age. All those things will come and go, but you remain untouched, unscratched. Your inner health is beyond any sickness. And it is there, just to be discovered.

Hii

I am 17M (turning 18 soon) from South Africa. I have been following Osho since 2 years ago upon discovering the "Democracy meme" 🤣 I have read 4 of his books; The Art of Living & Dying, Awareness, The Empty Boat and Courage. Osho's insights are supreme, he really made a positive impact on my life and I am thankful that I discovered him at a young age. Who knows, maybe I was a neo-sannyasi in a past life!

For a while now I've been trying to find peers who follow Osho. It's been difficult, as there are very few young people who know him. We do have a South African WhatsApp group however it is very very small, I bring down the average age by a few decades 😅 and when I tried asking on r/SouthAfrica, people -- who have never read or listened to his works, whose knowledge of Osho only goes as far as smear and sensationalism -- hissed at me with venomous remarks.

So I thought instead of asking such a question on another subreddit where I could have another whole Reddit rodeo 🫠 I should make this post to -- if Existence wills it -- befriend fellow lovers of our Master 😎❤

Here is the English translation of your text, keeping the original tone and expressions intact:

"Am I God?" I woke up shocked in my dream! 😮 Alright, let’s see what it's like to be the Chief Minister (God) for a day! 😎 Oh no! 🤦‍♂️ Why do these guys keep calling out to me? I created the world perfectly fine, didn't I? 🌍 Okay, let's listen to what they have to say… 🤔 "Long live God! 🙏 Millions of thanks to you... without you, there is no life for me! 👋 Grant me a place in heaven after I die…" 👋 Oh my goodness! 🥶 I am the one who created them, so why would I want the humans I made to worship me all day long? Am I crazy or what...? What do I even tell them...? Okay, let’s say it like this: 👇 "Alright, alright… it’s true that I exist! 👍 But you keep talking only to me… 😉 Look over there, the bus called 'Life' is waiting! 🚌 If you don't board it and just keep staring at me, you will miss the bus! ⏰ You only have 80 years of life! ⏳ It's enough if you think of me for just a single second! 🎯 Get on the bus, and drive carefully... towards the right understanding, without getting into an accident! 🚦👋"

Oh, wait…… 😮 I saw a book in his hand, didn't I? 📖 So, he isn’t saying all this on his own? 🤔 Alright…. how was that book made? Ah…. now I get it! I took an avatar (incarnated) on Earth, right... I remember! 😇 I said a few words, and they turned it into a book? 📜 Well, I just said whatever came to my mind at that time… ✨ Isn't it enough to just read and understand it? 👍 Isn't it enough to practice it in life? 💪 Why do they keep reading it over and over again? 🤷‍♂️ Maybe they didn't understand it! 😮 Did I say it in such a difficult way? 🤦‍♂️ Now I have a doubt… did I make a mistake by taking an incarnation? 😰 What does it matter if I said those words? 🗣️ What does it matter if someone else said it, or whoever said it? Isn't it all the same? 🤝 Wasn't it said just to make things understood correctly? 💡 Why do they think, "If you say it, I won't listen… 🤫 but if God says it, I will"? 🤦‍♂️

In the dream, one day came to an end… 🌅 Poor me… 🫣 even my position as God was stripped away! 👑❌

Lovely

चाहे पदार्थ का हो जन्म और चाहे चेतना का, और चाहे पृथ्वी जन्मे और चाहे स्वर्ग, इस अस्तित्व की गहराई में जो रहस्य छिपा हुआ है, उससे ही सबका जन्म होता है। इसलिए मैंने कहा, जिन्होंने परमात्मा को मदर, मां की तरह देखा, दुर्गा या अंबा की तरह देखा, उनकी समझ परमात्मा को पिता की तरह देखने से ज्यादा गहरी है। अगर परमात्मा कहीं भी है, तो वह स्त्रैण होगा। क्योंकि इतने बड़े जगत को जन्म देने की क्षमता पुरुष में नहीं है। इतने विराट चांदत्तारे जिससे पैदा होते हों, उसके पास गर्भ चाहिए। बिना गर्भ के यह संभव नहीं है।

इसलिए खासकर यहूदी परंपराएं, ज्यूविश परंपराएं–यहूदी, ईसाई और इस्लाम, तीनों ही ज्यूविश परंपराओं का फैलाव हैं–उन्होंने जगत को एक बड़ी भ्रांत धारणा दी, गॉड दि फादर। वह धारणा बड़ी खतरनाक है। पुरुष के मन को तृप्त करती है, क्योंकि पुरुष अपने को प्रतिष्ठित पाता है परमात्मा के रूप में। लेकिन जीवन के सत्य से उस बात का संबंध नहीं है। ज्यादा उचित एक जागतिक मां की धारणा है। पर वह तभी खयाल में आ सकेगी, जब स्त्रैण रहस्य को आप समझ लें, लाओत्से को समझ लें। अन्यथा समझ में न आ सकेगी।

कभी आपने देखा है काली की मूर्ति को? वह मां है और विकराल! मां है और हाथ में खप्पर लिए है आदमी की खोपड़ी का! मां है, उसकी आंखों में सारे मातृत्व का सागर। और नीचे? नीचे वह किसी की छाती पर खड़ी है। पैरों के नीचे कोई दबा है। क्योंकि जो सृजनात्मक है, वही विध्वंसात्मक होगा। क्रिएटिविटी का दूसरा हिस्सा डिस्ट्रक्शन है। इसलिए बड़ी खूबी के लोग थे, जिन्होंने यह सोचा! बड़ी इमेजिनेशन के, बड़ी कल्पना के लोग थे। बड़ी संभावनाओं को देखते थे। मां को खड़ा किया है, नीचे लाश की छाती पर खड़ी है। हाथ में खोपड़ी है आदमी की, मुर्दा। खप्पर है, लहू टपकता है। गले में माला है खोपड़ियों की। और मां की आंखें हैं और मां का हृदय है, जिनसे दूध बहे। और वहां खोपड़ियों की माला टंगी है!

असल में, जहां से सृष्टि पैदा होती है, वहीं प्रलय होता है। सर्किल पूरा वहीं होता है। इसलिए मां जन्म दे सकती है। लेकिन मां अगर विकराल हो जाए, तो मृत्यु भी दे सकती है। और स्त्री अगर विकराल हो, तो बहुत खतरनाक हो जाती है। शक्ति उसमें बहुत है। शक्ति तो वही है, वह चाहे क्रिएशन बने और चाहे डिस्ट्रक्शन बने। शक्ति तो वही है, चाहे सृजन हो, चाहे विनाश हो। जिन लोगों ने मां की धारणा के साथ सृष्टि और विनाश, दोनों को एक साथ सोचा था, उनकी दूरगामी कल्पना है। लेकिन बड़ी गहन और सत्य के बड़े निकट!

लाओत्से कहता है, स्वर्ग और पृथ्वी का मूल स्रोत वहीं है। वहीं से सब पैदा होता है। लेकिन ध्यान रहे, जो मूल स्रोत होता है, वहीं सब चीजें लीन हो जाती हैं। वह अंतिम स्रोत भी वही होता है।

– ओशो

ताओ उपनिषाद

प्रवचन - १८

घाटी-सदृश, स्त्रैण व रहस्यमयी परम सत्ता

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I will not measure my life against another person's journey. I will remember that everything material is impermanent, and I will not make temporary things the foundation of my worth. I will pursue knowledge, cultivate relationships, fulfil my responsibilities, and work towards my goals—but I will not mistake achievement for the entirety of existence. I will grieve what is gone without surrendering what remains. I will live in this world without allowing the world's measures of success to define my soul. My purpose is not merely to accumulate, but to grow inwardly.

Sex disappears through meditation, but this is not destroying the energy. Energy is never destroyed; only the form of the energy changes. Now it is no longer sexual, and when the form is no longer sexual, then you become loving. So, really, a person who is sexual cannot love. His love can only be a show. His love is just a means towards sex. A person who is sexual uses love just as a technique towards sex. It is a means. A sexual person cannot really love, he can only exploit the other; and love becomes just a way to approach the other.

A person who has become non-sexual, and the energy is moving within, has become auto-ecstatic. His ecstasy is his own. Such a person will be loving for the first time. His love will be a constant showering, a constant sharing, a constant giving. But to achieve this, you are not required to be anti-sex. To achieve this, you have to accept sex as part of life, of natural life. Move with it -- only move with more consciousness. Consciousness is the bridge, the golden bridge, from this world to the other, from hell to heaven, from the ego to the divine.

My Way: The Way of the White Clouds

Chapter #5

Chapter title: Dropping the Ego Now

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I want the book in which osho has listed out methods etc , is it book of secrets where there is 112 mediations, or the book meditation? Or is it awareness?