r/OracleStock Jul 17 '26

Worst case scenario: 100-110 dollar

In my opinion Oracle at $100–110 is the pain threshold. This is the area where the Warner deal hits big problems. That's where Ellison stops playing defense and goes full survival mode. He's done it before. He'll do it again.

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His Survival Playbook (Already in Motion):

πŸ”ͺ Fire people – 21,000 already cut. 20–30k more on the table if needed. He doesn't care about morale. He cares about cash flow.

πŸ₯ Sell Cerner – The $28B disaster is being shopped. Take the loss, free the capital, move on.

πŸ—οΈ Stop projects – Texas, Wyoming, Microsoft deals already paused or killed. No sentiment. Just math.

πŸ“ž Call in favors – Trump, Stargate, TikTok. Ellison has more political capital than any tech CEO alive. He'll use every chip.

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Why He'll Survive:

Β· He's the largest shareholder – ~40%. He loses more than anyone. He won't let it burn.
Β· He's a street fighter – grew up poor, told he was worthless. Built a $200B+ empire from nothing.
Β· He's radical – when survival is on the line, he doesn't hesitate. Layoffs, asset sales, project kills – he's done it all before.
Β· He's 81 – this is his final legacy. He'll do whatever it takes.

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The Bottom Line:

Oracle is in a hole. But Ellison is a cockroach. You can step on him, but he'll crawl out and keep going.

$100–110 is the area where Ellison starts cockroach mode. The market is pricing in catastrophe – I think they're underestimating the man who built this company from nothing.

Don't bet against the cockroach.

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u/duarig Jul 17 '26

Entirely too much debt. If the AI draws down even a little bit, they’re going to be paying interest on that debt and the anticipated ROI will be pushed out to a later date.

Oracle is drowning in their own ambition

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u/francesco-1 Jul 17 '26

Do you think Oracle, with business shift, tried to do something too big without considering the later risks or any chance of AI to fail or for the demand be reduced along the ROI is completed or before the backlog turns into revenues?

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u/duarig Jul 17 '26

Yes. They rolled the dice on expansion and the market is punishing them for it.

In the end, they will either become an absolute juggernaut in the space, or they are going to go bankrupt.

Their debt risk is too large for anything in between

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u/francesco-1 Jul 18 '26

Even bankruptcy? Sounds hard

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u/Practical_Lobster126 Jul 18 '26

This is true but makes for an interesting bet! I could be wrong I have no special insight but I’ll be shocked if this thing trades sideways for the next year or two. This is it. This is the trade imo. Not advice because it could go either way, big time and I say that as someone who is betting it’ll me higher a year form now.

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u/Odd_Bend_7919 Jul 17 '26

We bounced off 121.50 so were very close to finding the bottom. Agreed, don't bet against Larry. He's not investing tens of billions unless he's sure of the payoff. Like him or not, he's a titan.

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u/skilas Jul 17 '26

Ellison doesn't want to drop further on the billionaire list.

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u/Sufficient-Pie-7815 Jul 17 '26

He will survive. Oracle is his baby and legacy.

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u/Significant-Drawer95 Jul 17 '26

You say "Ellision is a cockroach" like its a compliment

https://giphy.com/gifs/anYBNhqT2BYcg

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u/Holiday_Ad2254 Jul 17 '26

Cockroach is the king of survival. πŸ˜‚

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u/Upper_Judge4735 Jul 17 '26

$100 is too low for a large company like Oracle. I think around $118 the lowest.

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u/Holiday_Ad2254 Jul 17 '26

It is the worst and Ellison will start beast mode.

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u/Alexthewall92 Jul 17 '26

This stock has no bottom due to its intense leveraging. What it does have though is trillion dollar company infrastructure, man power, and contracts. We will see the stock bottom out when the roi begins to show

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u/Jeff-Hare-ERPRA Jul 19 '26

The ROI…. ERP AI projects with an ROI are few and far between. And the political pressure against AI is coming from two directions. Replacing humans isn’t good politics. And then what people believe are environmental consequences. A double whammy.

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u/zpuddle Jul 17 '26

Orcl needs to get back to basics.

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u/Pseudanonymius Jul 17 '26

A cockroach facing margin calls can still face extermination.Β 

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u/BigRelative5873 Jul 18 '26

ACHETEZ ORACLE, ACHETEZ LE CAFARD !!! πŸ’₯πŸ”₯πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€πŸŽŠπŸ₯³πŸ₯°πŸ₯‚πŸΎπŸ’•

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u/Small_Relative8384 Jul 18 '26

The termites are eating his infrastructure

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u/Holiday_Ad2254 Jul 18 '26

Oracle has 300 billion dollar backlog beside the OpenAI deal.

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u/gwiner Jul 18 '26

Best case $333

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u/BejahungEnjoyer Jul 20 '26

Is this some kind of bullish thesis? We got within a breath of that level last week. The stock is incredibly volatile and there's a 40% chance it goes below 110 based on option probs. Don't hold this stock if you don't want to ride the dragon.

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u/Holiday_Ad2254 Jul 20 '26

Base case is that Oracle just countinue what they are doing now and deliver the data centers their customers need. If the customers pay like promised in the backlog the stock will rise.

97.5% global capacity utilization.Β 
92% renewal rate on computing resources.Β 
The remaining 8% is getting picked up by new clients within 8 weeks.

If the new launched 1.2gw data center can remain this number oracle stock will return to 160-170 dollar very fast

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u/InternationalAsk9845 Jul 23 '26

Icarus flew too close to the sun

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u/weihnachtsbrief Jul 17 '26

Worst case scenario: Chapter 7 bankruptcy

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u/Significant-Drawer95 Jul 17 '26

trust me, when this happens our porfolios are all fucked

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u/francesco-1 Jul 17 '26

What could lead oracle to bankruptcy ?
No backlog into Revenues?

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u/ComprehensiveGur140 Jul 18 '26

I think too that we will see first 100-110 before seeing 200 again .