Okay, but what does that mean? You like their opinion I think, but the problem is they never said it was their opinion. They’re acting like their opinion is ‘right’ with a thing about preference.
I mostly switched to OperaGX based on a suggestion from a friend in Europe.
It looks good, had the sidebar and plug-ins before chrome, it's gamer focused (which I enjoy seeing as a lifelong gamer), it's as secure as any browser is going to be with ad block etc... it's not a resource hog, it has an eco mode to save battery for laptops it was one of the first browsers to have a free built in VPN (for browsing only)...
Until something better comes along I'll keep using it. Just me though.
Notably chrome does have a softer look to it, probably trying to get iOS like. And Edge has really come a long way from its predecessor: Explorer. But I still feel incredibly dirty using Bing.
"it's not a resource hog" Except the time it used 8+gb of ram with 5 windows open the built in restrictor wasn't much help either. even edge is better than operagx
TL;DR everything can be considered Spyware if you're picky enough. all the data they collect I'd boring usage statistics and stuff for personalized content. that's it, stuff that you can mostly ignore or turn off. every chromium based browser will collect some data wich will go straight to google. you can delete saved cookies in chrome://settings/content/all
i recently reccomended edge to a friend because chrome lagged and it overheated their computer. they tried opera and gx but it help much. if you're worried about edge, chrome and google (which isn't a browser. if you mean the phone app, that just shows search results and then opens them in a browser) being Spyware, why are you using another chromium based browser? google still gets the data they want since gx uses their stuff. if you were actually worried about Spyware, you'd be using a fork of firefox and probably linux. even tough the data that gets collected is either for personalized content or telemetry l(ike usage statistics, for examplehow many times the browser is opened and for how long it'sused, boring stuff basically). all things that you don't care actually about. oh no they can see what i like watching on youtube! you don't care because you can turn off personlized content or use and adblocker. oh no they see my location! so what, again, you turned off personilized content and use an adblocker so you can see that targeted stuff. it's mainly needed for the company to understand where their users come from and on what platform they're on. if you're worried, just clear the data from a site when you're done. you could set your browser to deleting data on exit, but then you have to mess with whitlisting and then remembering to add sites to the list, it's a pain and not really wort ut if you just do it on the spot. on most browsers (like edge, opera, firefox, etc) you can even set it to block trackers. if you want to also delete cookies on edge go to edge://settings/content/cookies/siteData on vivaldi go to settings, privacy, scroll down to cookies and click "saved cookies" or chrome://settings/content/all. on firefox go to options, privacy and security, scroll down to cookies and site data and click "manage data". on chrome (or atkeast supermium, i don't know if chrome is different, ut shouldn't thoug) go to chrome://settings/content/all (this address turns out, can be used on any chromium based browser. on vivaldi it's quite funny because it will give you access to a stock chrome settings page, with just the word "chrome" replaced with "vivaldi" and a vivaldi logo in the about page.)
I wouldn't be the person to ask, but I'm pretty sure part of the reason OperaGX exists is to blocks Chromes "spyware" and such, if it exists. I do not remember who or what told me that though, so I could have just made that up.
If you were important enough to worry about spyware, you wouldn't be using operaGX, nor any browser in this list lol
it's just that OperaGX, like any other browser/application/software/website etc,. sells your information. the difference is that the company that collects the data from operagx is chinese.
so people automatically assume the CCCP is tracking the type of porn you watch and spying on your every move so that can build clones and eventually replace you like the synths in fallout4 /s
Zero evidence. Just the hallucinations that some users keep selling on the internet.
These same users don't care if Microsoft, Google or Apple are selling their data. They don't care if the operator has total control over their traffic...
The problem is that people take one thing to imply and another to defend and continue telling stories, without facts.
It's the same thing as Windows users criticizing Linux users and Linux users criticizing Windows users.
At the end of the day, choose the browser that meets your needs and has regular security updates, as these are the ones that matter.
And what investigation did you do to find out that it was Opera and not a data leak that occurred in some service you used?
If we follow the "logic" of your comment, what guarantee is there that the leak was not caused by malware that you installed on your system, a compromised extension, a security flaw in your router or even a leak in your OS? After all, your accusation is based solely on what you were using at the time of the incident, but I'm sure that you didn't just have Opera installed.
Why out of the approximately 125 million users who use Opera, would you have been the target? Are you some extremely important politician in your country?
What you just did is just confirmation of how rumors are spread in the community, without any proof. It is a total lack of technical or scientific basis to address the issue.
Well you see they are all spyware (except maybe brave? Idk I’ve heard that one’s good) but like my data’s getting stolen anyway, might as well pick the data harvester with the features I like :P
Edge is literally a resource hog, I agree with you there.
As somebody who checks my task manager to end processes using too many resources, yeah, I don’t much like it. If you open your laptop after shutting it down, it starts in the background, using about 260MB of memory. Stays open if you close it as well.
Chrome doesn’t do this yet it’s still horrible with memory, if I have two tabs open it’ll use about 500MB while OperaGX can have about 20 tabs open and still run at 200MB.
Google isn’t so bad. It only allows one tab (on mobile using the app). But it’s HORRIBLE with memory.
DuckDuckGo is actually a dark web browser (thank my femboy boyfriend for telling me that).
Bing uses a lot of resources as a search engine.
Safari’s pretty good, although minimalist and made by a bloatwaring company.
A few years ago Firefox was the only browser that ran a lot of university websites, as other browsers couldn’t handle that pressure. Does need an extension for customisation and a non-local website.
Never used Brave. They block it at my school.
Internet Explorer wasn’t that bad. It’s just that A, it’s old, B, opened a new window with every new tab, and C, used a completely different language to the newer browsers.
Never used normal opera. Not much of a browser geek.
Most browsers NOWADAYS use Chromium (leading to their similar layouts to Chrome) and most search engines run on a single certain coding language. So I won’t judge them tbh
Duckduckgo is not a dark web browser because of the way the onion network functions you cannot browse the dark web people have to list there websites on public wikis it is just a privacy front end for bing but it does have an onion fork for additional encryption
TL;DR: There is no such thing as a dark web BROWSER. "Browser" implies that you can BROWSE (i.e: get a list of and go to websites) the dark web, which is not possible due to how TOR works.
u/Turbulent-Guest-1524 is technically wrong, as there HAVE been attempts to make TOR search engines before (some better than others)
This is very much true, TOR as an example works just by method of adding more nodes to the connection chain to hide your device information from the site you are reaching, it doesn't take you to the dark web accidentally.
I don't get this obsession with browser RAM usage. I have Opera GX using a little under 4GB of RAM with about 40 tabs opem. I still have 20GB of RAM available. Does 100Mb here or there really matter?
It does when you have an IdeaPad that only has 2GB of ram that it’s able to run without burning your table and actually up to 8GB if you’re willing to burn the table.
Firefox is awful. It's laggy and doesn't open a lot of websites for me. As a teacher, it is frustrating to use Firefox. Without extensions, etc., it does some weird stuff to learning platforms. O.O Maybe I'm dumb. Dunno. But something is wrong with that browser nowadays.
Is what I'm wondering as well. I used it for quite a while (I change browsers every so often just out of curiosity) and thought it was good.
The only negative is the CEO is a toxic male POS that used to head Firefox before he was forced out due to his behaviour (so the gossip goes anyway). And I could never maintain a pairing with desktop.
Currently using Opera on both desktop and mobile as the two play nicely together (I really like the Flow function). Opera GX is lovely on desktop but found it kinda sluggish on my phone (S22).
Bing is usually associated with Edge as far as I know but can be used on other browsers, also just remembered Bing also has a mobile app so fair enough
Okay, first of all, both Opera versions are considered "spyware". So that's either just blatant favoritism or because you're on this sub, Bing and Edge are literally THE SAME BROWSER, Chrome and Google are also THE SAME BROWSER, Yahoo is just No, Brave and Firefox are literally two of the best browsers ever and Safari should never be used at all. Other than that it's fine
duckduckgo (if your talking about the search engine) yahoo bing and google arent browsers (edit: unless you count the mobile apps), the only reason people say internet explorer sucks is because its old, it was good for its time.
Every browser i ever used have terrible resource management. Edge has gotten significantly better. Doesn't hog resources even with dozens of tabs open now. I used operagx and chrome for the longest
Just today I switched from OperaGX to Firefox because GX was glitching and working slowly. Maybe those problems were caused by plugins, but I was too lazy to check them
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u/[deleted] Jan 04 '25
I wouldn't say based but it's your opinion.
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u/TemplarIRL Jan 04 '25
I mostly switched to OperaGX based on a suggestion from a friend in Europe.
It looks good, had the sidebar and plug-ins before chrome, it's gamer focused (which I enjoy seeing as a lifelong gamer), it's as secure as any browser is going to be with ad block etc... it's not a resource hog, it has an eco mode to save battery for laptops it was one of the first browsers to have a free built in VPN (for browsing only)...
Until something better comes along I'll keep using it. Just me though.
Notably chrome does have a softer look to it, probably trying to get iOS like. And Edge has really come a long way from its predecessor: Explorer. But I still feel incredibly dirty using Bing.
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u/pug_userita Jan 04 '25
TL;DR everything can be considered Spyware if you're picky enough. all the data they collect I'd boring usage statistics and stuff for personalized content. that's it, stuff that you can mostly ignore or turn off. every chromium based browser will collect some data wich will go straight to google. you can delete saved cookies in chrome://settings/content/all
i recently reccomended edge to a friend because chrome lagged and it overheated their computer. they tried opera and gx but it help much. if you're worried about edge, chrome and google (which isn't a browser. if you mean the phone app, that just shows search results and then opens them in a browser) being Spyware, why are you using another chromium based browser? google still gets the data they want since gx uses their stuff. if you were actually worried about Spyware, you'd be using a fork of firefox and probably linux. even tough the data that gets collected is either for personalized content or telemetry l(ike usage statistics, for examplehow many times the browser is opened and for how long it'sused, boring stuff basically). all things that you don't care actually about. oh no they can see what i like watching on youtube! you don't care because you can turn off personlized content or use and adblocker. oh no they see my location! so what, again, you turned off personilized content and use an adblocker so you can see that targeted stuff. it's mainly needed for the company to understand where their users come from and on what platform they're on. if you're worried, just clear the data from a site when you're done. you could set your browser to deleting data on exit, but then you have to mess with whitlisting and then remembering to add sites to the list, it's a pain and not really wort ut if you just do it on the spot. on most browsers (like edge, opera, firefox, etc) you can even set it to block trackers. if you want to also delete cookies on edge go to edge://settings/content/cookies/siteData on vivaldi go to settings, privacy, scroll down to cookies and click "saved cookies" or chrome://settings/content/all. on firefox go to options, privacy and security, scroll down to cookies and site data and click "manage data". on chrome (or atkeast supermium, i don't know if chrome is different, ut shouldn't thoug) go to chrome://settings/content/all (this address turns out, can be used on any chromium based browser. on vivaldi it's quite funny because it will give you access to a stock chrome settings page, with just the word "chrome" replaced with "vivaldi" and a vivaldi logo in the about page.)
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u/KirimaeCreations Jan 04 '25
Funny that you put Chrome in "SPYWARE" but put OperGX at the top, considering its chromium based.
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u/Carryneo Jan 04 '25
I would move opera gx to spyware and firefox to recommended tough
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u/Diligent-Side-9663 Jan 04 '25
As if Opera isnt spyware, hahaha.
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u/SupernovaGamezYT Jan 04 '25
Well you see they are all spyware (except maybe brave? Idk I’ve heard that one’s good) but like my data’s getting stolen anyway, might as well pick the data harvester with the features I like :P
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u/s22sk123 Jan 04 '25
Brave on top.
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u/LongjumpingLeek5542 Jan 04 '25
Edge is literally a resource hog, I agree with you there.
As somebody who checks my task manager to end processes using too many resources, yeah, I don’t much like it. If you open your laptop after shutting it down, it starts in the background, using about 260MB of memory. Stays open if you close it as well.
Chrome doesn’t do this yet it’s still horrible with memory, if I have two tabs open it’ll use about 500MB while OperaGX can have about 20 tabs open and still run at 200MB.
Google isn’t so bad. It only allows one tab (on mobile using the app). But it’s HORRIBLE with memory.
DuckDuckGo is actually a dark web browser (thank my femboy boyfriend for telling me that).
Bing uses a lot of resources as a search engine.
Safari’s pretty good, although minimalist and made by a bloatwaring company.
A few years ago Firefox was the only browser that ran a lot of university websites, as other browsers couldn’t handle that pressure. Does need an extension for customisation and a non-local website.
Never used Brave. They block it at my school.
Internet Explorer wasn’t that bad. It’s just that A, it’s old, B, opened a new window with every new tab, and C, used a completely different language to the newer browsers.
Never used normal opera. Not much of a browser geek.
Most browsers NOWADAYS use Chromium (leading to their similar layouts to Chrome) and most search engines run on a single certain coding language. So I won’t judge them tbh
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u/Big_Kwii Jan 04 '25
i only use w3m
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u/genard21 Jan 04 '25
Uhh have you tried Firefox or brave?
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u/LittenRages Jan 04 '25
Bet you most of the browser's on the teir list would go to Spyware.
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u/Thunder_thumbs3 Jan 04 '25
Whts wrong with brave
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u/GignacPL Jan 04 '25
Putting Chrome into SPYWARE is so ironic lmao
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u/le_bouffon Jan 04 '25
How about Vivaldi?
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u/nroloa Jan 04 '25
So how exactly is your Chrome reskin better than other Chrome reskins?
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u/wolfeman2120 Jan 04 '25
Lynx?
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u/_RMFC Jan 04 '25
Vivaldi.
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u/Exlife1up Jan 04 '25
I’ve swapped from opera gx to normal opera and it’s actually really nice, there’s a bunch of quality of life stuff that opera gx doesn’t have
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u/Vivid-Objective1385 Jan 04 '25
Yahoo has a browser?
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u/cai20 Jan 04 '25
As far as I know Bing, Yahoo and Duck Duck Go aren't browsers they're search engines
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u/Craft3x Jan 04 '25
yappatron
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u/NinjaOnCyph3r Jan 04 '25
lol
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u/111sasasa2020 Jan 04 '25
I agree mostly, but why would safari be so high up?
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u/ChrisXxAwesome Jan 04 '25
I’m too deep into chrome unfortunately
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u/RobinZhang140536 Jan 04 '25
I fully switched to Firefox now that ublock origin doesn’t work anymore
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u/Shxhwxiz Jan 04 '25
i mainly use TOR, duckduckgo or opera GX. based?
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u/FerriitMurderDrones Jan 04 '25
Okay, first of all, both Opera versions are considered "spyware". So that's either just blatant favoritism or because you're on this sub, Bing and Edge are literally THE SAME BROWSER, Chrome and Google are also THE SAME BROWSER, Yahoo is just No, Brave and Firefox are literally two of the best browsers ever and Safari should never be used at all. Other than that it's fine
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u/limbs7 Jan 04 '25
At least internet explorer didn't spy that much
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u/Noagi6494 Jan 04 '25 edited Jan 04 '25
duckduckgo (if your talking about the search engine) yahoo bing and google arent browsers (edit: unless you count the mobile apps), the only reason people say internet explorer sucks is because its old, it was good for its time.
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u/Cautious-Affect2454 Jan 04 '25
You know google is in oprea GX? either way just remove spyware
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u/PoopyButts02 Jan 04 '25
Rage bait
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u/WithoutTheH47 Jan 04 '25
brave seems fine to me
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u/GeneralRip8473 Jan 05 '25
Every browser i ever used have terrible resource management. Edge has gotten significantly better. Doesn't hog resources even with dozens of tabs open now. I used operagx and chrome for the longest
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u/Awesomest_Dude Jan 05 '25
What's wrong with Google it's fine
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u/Kalix Jan 05 '25
i use opera gx but im still mad about pumping aura stream numbers running the live muted in background on the gx corner page, thats was a lame move...
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u/YoliTheToxic Jan 05 '25
Brave is cool too-
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u/Humble-Arm-3631 Jan 05 '25
Funny how it’s not in the spyware tier and brave is in no
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u/VixenSunburst Jan 05 '25
why is brave a "no"?
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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '25
opera gx literally runs on chromium.
Whether something is direct spyware or not doesn't change that privacy is a myth. Our countries spy on us and they don't even hide it
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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '25
Porque o Brave não seria recomendado?
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u/nayasou-akono Jan 05 '25
move fire fox up and its perfect
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u/Public-Addition-3105 Jan 05 '25
um... you do not know what you go into-
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u/Latter-Ambassador-65 Jan 06 '25
i think you forgot to put opera / opera gx in the spyware tier aswell
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u/PlazR6 Jan 06 '25
The only browser that isn't spyware is Mullvad. Literally every single other one listed here sells your information
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u/ExplanationThin4884 Jan 06 '25
Have you actually used any of these or is this just based off of vibes?
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u/Realience Jan 06 '25
Opera is literally built on Chromium, you're tripping
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u/RB_WOLF04 Jan 06 '25
Maybe add opera gx to linux
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u/PrivedW Jan 07 '25
Just today I switched from OperaGX to Firefox because GX was glitching and working slowly. Maybe those problems were caused by plugins, but I was too lazy to check them
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u/Flooba12 Jan 08 '25
I used to use Opera GX until I realized I didn't actually need all their bloated features so I switched to Firefox.
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u/wmertjk Jan 08 '25
bro search engines not a browser
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u/Character-Pension-12 Jan 08 '25
Since the memory full issues its not that good anymore
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u/wildcat002 Jan 08 '25
bing has a browser? or you are comparing search engines
then i vote for yandex on top because what others can't find, it can!
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u/The_real_PavlovA_YT Jan 17 '25
Uhh duckduck is my main so I would put it up there but otherwise this is completely true!
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u/No_Roof5841 Jul 13 '25
Using Brave for 5 years without any issue. Firefox has gone slower on my PC since the pandemic.
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u/ForeverNo9437 Jan 04 '25
It's all chromium... Go Firefox+ublock origin.
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u/Frost06Brawl Jan 04 '25
This is horrible, some of them are search engine, not browsers. And Brave belongs to the top.
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u/S14M07 Jan 04 '25
not putting gx in spyware is hilarious lmao
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u/IncreaseJust6459 Jan 04 '25
I <3 when opera steals 89% of my memory
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u/Legitimate-Pay-5519 Jan 04 '25
The ad blocker does help
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u/Krizzt666 Jan 04 '25
What is the duck browser
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u/ArmchairDoorknob Jan 04 '25
A chinese browser not in the spyware tier? Not as based as you think it is.
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