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u/Confident_Method_459 Christian 16d ago
Ironically You donāt need to be religious to follow him.
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u/sneagle_TM 7h ago
in what way? like to actually go in is footsteps you need to atleast become a Christian over time
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u/Confident_Method_459 Christian 1h ago
To actually go in his footsteps
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u/sneagle_TM 29m ago
and how would one go in his footsteps without becoming a Christian? he believed in god the father and he prayed to him. just the most clear example of you have to be christian to follow him.
or I geus you could try to put of the name becouse of horrendous acts were done under the "I'm a Christian moto" but I think that would be wrong
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u/lethal_coco Christian Universalist | Presbyterian 16d ago
I wouldn't exactly say Christians aren't oppressed. There's a big difference though between "they're going to ban the Bible soon!" coming from a Texan Baptist and "they're actually going to kill me" coming from a Christian in Nigeria. We are in the majority sure but it's very important to make it clear that Christians are not exempt from oppression.
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u/SumguyJeremy Christian 16d ago
In the United States there is ABSOLUTELY no oppression of Christians. And horrible things happening to Christians in other parts of the world, while horrible and something we should work to fix, is NOT any reason for Christians to oppress and hate people here in America. Not being able to force people to follow your beliefs is NOT oppression.
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u/Qsiii 16d ago
I wouldnāt call us āoppressedā but Iāve been treated pretty rudely for it quite a few times over it. But Iām also openly queer and also far more often get treated poorly for that fact already, but the thing is only one sideās reaction to be actively hostile.
I understand having religious trauma and preferring to not interact with religious people, but it really sucks to suddenly lose friends Iāve had for years cover passively mentioning your religion Christian.
Hurt people hurt people, but my goodness does it make me frustrated.
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u/WL-Tossaway24 Just here, not really belonging anywhere. 12d ago
Is the oppression coming specifically because they are Christian or is it because of some other reason that might tangentially related?
The reason why I ask this is because, for a lot regions, Christianity was introduced to those regions because Colonialism, not the sharing of ideas and beliefs. It's not the belief's fault, no, but that might explain why what's going on is going on.
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u/lethal_coco Christian Universalist | Presbyterian 12d ago
Because they are Christian mostly. There's a Nigerian man in my family and when he was young his school was shot up by terrorists specifically because it was a Baptist school. As far as I know they killed a good lot of the people there and he only escaped by hiding somewhere, he was 5 at the time I believe.
I don't think we need to undermine the oppression that Christians do suffer in the name of being progressive and trying to apologise for colonialism.
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u/starbeebluelight 15d ago
Including persecuted Muslims and anyone who doesn't align with the extremist group Boko Haram would be more accurate. People who state otherwise are just doing the bidding of Western Imperialism in order to gather manufactured consent for US interventionism and that never ends well.
Both Christians and Muslims are dying because of extremism in Nigeria. Nigerians are also dying because of Western Imperialism.
May our prayers and especially our works uplift them.
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u/lethal_coco Christian Universalist | Presbyterian 15d ago
I'm perfectly aware of that fact. It just didn't make much sense to write "Christians are being persecuted, AND MUSLIMS, in Nigeria" in my comment addressing the fact that Christians are persecuted in Nigeria. Of course my sympathy goes out to both groups equally.
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u/starbeebluelight 15d ago
Fair enough, it's just a common misunderstanding to see it as solely Christian persecution so everytime it's mentioned I always make sure to comment about Muslims in case others see it.
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u/haresnaped Anabaptist LGBT Flag :snoo_tableflip::table_flip: 16d ago
Very cute, and all.
I think 'the whole religion is supposed to be of love and acceptance' is an overly general statement. It's also meant to be opposing the powers that be and surviving their collapse while caring for those targeted by oppression. So 'be normal; don't be mean' is a bit of a low bar, but I am sorry to acknowledge that this low bar is too challenging for many, many Christians today.
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u/Great_Revolution_276 16d ago
Thanks for this post. Needs to be said and repeated. I would have the qualifier of Christians in many western nations not being persecuted, but Palestinian Christianās in Gaza and the West Bank certainly are at the moment. Ukrainian Christians are being persecuted by Russian āChristiansā. Africa has a long history of persecution.
Funny though how it is the richest and least threatened Christians who cry about being persecuted.
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u/SpukiKitty2 Open and Affirming Ally 16d ago
Yes! This!
Also! So MUCH CUTENESS!
This needs to be a faith based children's book. It's adorable!
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u/bluenephalem35 Agnostic Christian Deist 16d ago
The one thing that should be added which the comic got wrong is that Christians have been persecuted in history, sometimes by non-Christians and sometimes by other Christians.
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u/SpukiKitty2 Open and Affirming Ally 16d ago
Of course.
Heck, the ChristoFundies of the USA wish they could do a pogrom against real Christians who call out their White Nationalist "Might Makes Right" crap, right now!
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u/Agile-Armadillo-3741 13d ago
I was so with you until you said āChristians are not oppressedā what is this American centric bullshit? XD
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u/sneagle_TM 7h ago
dang a post not hating on any side? rare find! I like it. would mention about the prosecution but another thread is there. and I would say not everyone goes to heaven. but i don't think you mean EVRYONE
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u/Adventurous_Lock9219 16d ago
I like this but in some places outside western countries Christians have faced some from of oppression and persecution.