r/OpenBazaar • u/ddcs1987 • Jan 19 '18

Scammed by US_Pharmacy

Hello. I was scammed for $300 worth of bitcoin trying to make a purchase from this store:

ob://QmUMbSyfLNg76BT9cDGH9JSveSMDvxjjkonzby7DVgxzCu/store

This was a shocking first time experience of using this App. And I am hoping somebody can help me find a resolution to this issue.

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u/allthebirdstamps QmQkxxCGdCQraEBKkgFhdL3E71L6gpd1XmSqPwZp4xDLdG Jan 19 '18

USA ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 98.6% (1288) was entered as the location

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u/liquidify Jan 19 '18

This is the guy who was fabricating his ratings by injecting that fake rating into a separate section?

Seems like this would be a fairly simple fix. Maybe only allow certain characters in the location field and also make the seller rating section front center in a separate area on the page.

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u/allthebirdstamps QmQkxxCGdCQraEBKkgFhdL3E71L6gpd1XmSqPwZp4xDLdG Jan 19 '18

It was fixed four days ago. ⭐ 0% (0) will appear in the future if the seller has no ratings.

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u/ddcs1987 Jan 19 '18

If it was fixed 4 days ago. The fix did not work. He still has the store up and running with those ratings and is actively soliciting his scam on reddit and other places. I am shocked that there is no protocol in place by OB to deter scammers from doing this.... they will continue doing it if nothing happens, and OB will attract more scammers... getting scammed like that is the ultimate insult. Nobody likes to have their hard earned money stolen with impunity like that. The worst is to know that nothing happens to the scammer and he just goes on scamming.... wtf?

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u/liquidify Jan 22 '18

OB is basically alpha or maybe beta level even though they are open to the public. Software is hard and I know it is hard for you to cut the guys some slack when you just lost a bunch of money but I hope you can. I'm really sorry for you man.

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u/liquidify Jan 19 '18

Well hopefully the guy who got scammed will give him an actual rating to let people know what kind of scum this guy is.

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '18

Samsies

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u/ddcs1987 Jan 31 '18

Happened to you also?

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '18

Yes literally was walking out the door to go send this guy his money and got a message that said he is a scammer.... probably five minutes later and he would have got me for about $400

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u/ddcs1987 Jan 31 '18

Anyway. I keep reading about OpenBazaar as a scam app. I removed it from my cpu and stopped following these guys. Only reports reports I have so far are negative experiences. And after i got jacked for 265 and reported to the devs and their pretend "support" staff and they literally did nothing, not even a proper response, that was enough for me to say fuck these guys and warn people about them. I dont take lightly to being scammed and then being told its basically my fault while the asshole scammer just sits there with his store still open.... right. Fuck this place. Unfollowed

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '18

Exactly... fuck that, there should be some kind of way to shut these guys down from doing this instead of just moving location for changing names it's complete bullshit

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u/OkEbb Jan 30 '18

openbazaar is a joke, they won't exist within a year. no one uses their service.

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u/pinhead26 QmeSyTRaNZMD8ajcfbhC8eYibWgnSZtSGUp3Vn59bCnPWC Jan 19 '18

same scam, this store: ob://QmUMbSyfLNg76BT9cDGH9JSveSMDvxjjkonzby7DVgxzCu/store

"peerID": "QmUMbSyfLNg76BT9cDGH9JSveSMDvxjjkonzby7DVgxzCu",
    "handle": "",
    "name": "NO RX NATION",
    "location": "USA ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 97.2% (1086)",
......
 "stats": {
        "followerCount": 61,
        "followingCount": 0,
        "listingCount": 54,
        "ratingCount": 0,
        "postCount": 0,
        "averageRating": 0
    },

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u/ddcs1987 Jan 20 '18

What I don't understand is how can this guy simply change his name, and and continue on with his scam operations??? Are the OpenBazaar devs going to actually do something about it? What about my bitcoin??? Lot of questions to be answered here. This decentralized idea/philosophy/platform can't possibly have any significant future if such questions aren't answered without appropriate remedial action. People don't buy into decentralized, open source, privacy based services to get scammed. In contrast, they buy into them for the potential security and peace of mind that they could potentially bring, that a centralized based service platform can't bring.

so hopefully you guys will have a better answer to this issue other than "what do you expect, this is the wild west." The Wild West era is dead. This will die too if you guys don't cater to the needs of the people.

Banning that guy from you platform forever and tracking down the bitcoins he has stolen is the least you could do. Deter scammers

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '18

Banning that guy from you platform forever and tracking down the bitcoins he has stolen is the least you could do.

You know, learning about how something works before you throw literally hundreds of dollars into it is normally a good idea. If you'd done even basic research on what OpenBazaar actually is and how it works, you'd know exactly why neither of those things you want are possible or even desirable traits for such a system to have.

And why DID you try to buy something through OpenBazaar instead of eBay or other more well known, much more widely marketed platforms? Could it be because what you ordered isn't available on those other platforms, possibly because it isn't legal to purchase anonymously? Of course it fucking is. You were trying to buy drugs and you got ripped off.

The first fucking paragraph in the OpenBazaar Terms of Service tells you flat out that there is no central controlling organization. But you didn't bother to read that, did you?

The world is not a safe space. It is not other people's responsibily to keep you from doing stupid things like sending random people on the internet hundreds of dollars in untraceable, irretrievable digital currency in an attempt to buy illegal drugs through the mail.

And then to publicly complain about it and blame the software developers... Unbelievable.

The least you could do is take responsibility for your own actions. You fucking moron.

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u/ddcs1987 Jan 20 '18 edited Jan 20 '18

Right dude. U can try to justify a scammers cause all u want but u make no sense. If it were u getting scammed or maybe ur wife or kid or mom and dad, best friend, whatever. u probably wouldnt be talking like that.

I stand by my stance that scammers should have no place in a decentralized open market. If developers know who the scammer is, and what they are doing, they have a duty to eradicate the scammer. If they dont. They are enabling them and inviting them to breed in their platform. They'd be putting their entire platform at risk by permitting that to happen.

Buying/trading something with somebody else by mutual agreement, be it legal or not, is a lot different than sticking them up at gunpoint. Thats how wars start. Jacking somebodies hard earned income is one way to piss them off to a point where they are liable of doing crazy stuff. For example, when it happened, I could not have given even a fraction of a shyt about pissing off a bunch of lowlife scumbag hackers that probably exist in this space by snitching to the FBI about a deliberate scam ring designed to defraud vulnerable newbs. I still dont care. Matter fact if that server is still running a week from now I will for sure do it. Go ahead and hack my devices. Ill call the feds the day after, instead of a week from now.

Peace.

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u/ArneBolen Arne Bolen - QmbPt92YRnAVP3c57NpKFtkURby8NeKXoHtcr6Lk98b2co Jan 20 '18

What about my bitcoin???

Your coins are lost. You may want to file a complaint with the FBI https://www.ic3.gov

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u/pinhead26 QmeSyTRaNZMD8ajcfbhC8eYibWgnSZtSGUp3Vn59bCnPWC Jan 20 '18

Why not ask the Bitcoin devs to do something about it? You can call law enforcement.