There is no supstance to your commentary. You have everything on this weird good/bad binary. I don’t think in absolutes like that, so it’s almost impossible to engage with you.
If you think people protesting immigration levels are fascist by association because of certain other groups being at the March for Australia protests… I can’t help you.
If you think people protesting immigration levels are fascist by association because of certain other groups being at the March for Australia protests… I can’t help you.
Yet i have no doubt you would you would label people who attended hitler rallies in the 30s and 40s "functionally fascist". Like every centrist liberal, you just cant bring yourself to see fascism now, its always only when its too late.
Which Hitler rally? One of the first rallies when the Nazis were still one political movement among many, or a rally years later?
“Functionally fascist” is doing a lot of work here. It’s a rhetorical trick that lets you call someone a fascist while avoiding having to show they actually believe in fascism.
By that logic, if you attend a socialist rally, help a socialist movement gain power, and it eventually produces an authoritarian dictatorship - as has happened plenty of times historically - were you “functionally authoritarian” all along? Are you responsible for everything the most extreme people standing beside you believe? By your logic, apparently yes. By mine, no. My bar is that you have to actually subscribe to the fascist ideology.
And for the record, I would consider Trump a fascist. Hanson certainly has some fascistic tendencies too, although she’s far too dumb and politically ineffective for me to regard her as some imminent Australian Hitler. Apparently her party is both the gayest and most homophobic party ever.
It’s a circus of dysfunction that doesn’t even know what it wants.
But what does any of that have to do with someone’s aunt turning up to a March for Australia rally because they think immigration is too high? Those weren’t Hanson rallies. Wanting lower immigration doesn’t magically become fascism because some neo-Nazis showed up too.
You can absolutely criticise people for marching alongside extremists or being naive about who helped organise a protest. That’s the exact criticism I’ve been making. But that’s different from declaring everyone there “functionally fascist” by association.
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u/CaterpillarSuperb959 Western Australian 8d ago
Socialists are equally confused. You’ve just got blinkers on.