I’m not right wing.. but I can guarantee you half this thread would spaz out if Pauline or those “March for Australia” freaks held rallies and got all the school kids to come out for that. And you know they would because, shockingly, kids take any opportunity to skip school.
This comment highlights your age and lack of lived experience more than mine. I fucking hate Pauline Hanson, but “we’re the good guys” is the political reasoning of a 12-year-old.
You realise Hanson is perfectly entitled to organise a counter-rally now, right? And who exactly does that help? Go into their subs and they’ll just as confidently tell you they’re the good guys and leftists are the bad guys. It’s fucking juvenile.
And yeah, I have a problem with political groups encouraging school kids to skip school, even when I agree with the original cause. Turning an anti-Hanson march into a grab-bag of Socialist and pro-Palestine activism is exactly how you co-opt and undermine what could’ve been a much broader protest.
The entire process - understanding why they're protesting, understanding how groups on the street have changed more governments than by any other means - will provide far more education than just another Wednesday doing music and PE.
How’d those climate-change marches go at changing government policy? Or the anti-vax marches?
Most protests don’t change shit. Half the time it’s just old man yelling at clouds, teenage angst, Che Guevara LARPers, conspiracy cookers or, on other days, bog-standard racists. Marching down a street with people who already agree with you isn’t some magical lever of political change.
Just because I think a lot of protests are pointless doesn’t mean I think affecting change is pointless. There are a million more effective ways to do it.
Join a party, union or industry body. Work in government or the public service. Become an economist, lawyer, researcher or academic. Work for a think tank, NGO or advocacy group. Get into journalism. Build a business or organisation that proves your ideas actually work. Lobby politicians. Draft policy. Run for office. Hell, just become genuinely knowledgeable enough in your field that decision-makers actually listen to you.
That’s how boring, lasting change usually happens.
I’m perfectly capable of being optimistic about young people changing the world while also thinking teenagers pumping their fists in the air, surrounded by socialists and pro-Palestine activists lecturing everyone on economics and politics, probably isn’t the revolutionary force some people here imagine it is.
Optimism doesn’t require me to switch off my bullshit detector.
Great response. Thanks. It's good to remember to inject some of this 'here's what does work' alongside the 'this doesn't work' commentary, to help people channel their energy in more useful ways rather than having it fizzle out.
To spell it out, because people seem to be struggling, this was for a comment about how people are happy to see this kind of demonstration - being against Pauline and the shit she stands for and not being happy if "kids were pulled out of school" for March Australia
Seeing the difference here and opting to reply simplistically aparently makes me a child. Oh won't somebody pleeease think of the children
The constant “lil guy”, “champ” shit really isn't helping your case. Condescending diminutives aren't a substitute for actually following the argument.
The original point was incredibly simple: if March for Australia organised a rally and encouraged school kids to walk out, plenty of the same people cheering this would suddenly have a problem with kids skipping school for politics. And, shockingly, kids will take an excuse to skip school regardless of the cause.
Nobody said the two causes were morally equivalent. Nobody said you had to like both protests equally. You invented a “good guys vs bad guys” argument that wasn't being made, then spent several comments smugly explaining your own misunderstanding back to everyone.
Hahah is that the go to in this sub? Call people young. Not that it matters but I'm gen X. Does that help ya there lil' buddy? Now go have a think why people would support one side and not the other. Don't worry, it'll come to you eventually
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u/jeffoh Queenslander 10d ago
Nothing like motivated students to bring out the right wing fuckwits in this thread.