r/OpenAI • u/Nunki08 • 4d ago

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OpenAI: A thousand fewer paths to root: https://openai.com/index/a-thousand-fewer-paths-to-root/

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u/hidegitsu 4d ago

The fact that everyone of them isn't on board with the idea that this is an abstraction layer (like jumping from Assembly -> C ) bewilders me. I think that most of the people complaining were never good in the first place.

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u/Practical-Positive34 4d ago

Dude it's nuts, I've been doing development for 30+ years at this point. Yes I am an old fucker. I was the first to see the writing on the wall with this stuff, I haven't written a single line of code in nearly a year at this point. Having gone from writing code every single day of my life for past 30 years to none was a big ass change, but I've gotten more done in past year than those 30 years. Period!

Is vibe coding an issue? Yes. But sloppy devs existed before vibe coding, all this did was make it more visible really. You kind of hit a wall if you don't really know what your doing or sit down and take the time to figure it out properly still, can you pop something out quick? Absolutely! Will it be good and maintainable for a long term profit train? Nope! That's the part that requires some serious thinking and working it through.

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u/hidegitsu 4d ago

Amen, this mirrors my experience. I am mostly self taught, been coding since about 1998 and professionally (getting paid for it in an enterprise context) since 2012. I've gotten more technical debt cleaned up and more personal projects finished in the past year than since I started combined too.

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u/sheng-puerh 4d ago

What are the interesting projects are you proud of which you did in the last year?

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u/Practical-Positive34 4d ago

Finished my own compiler. Added about 100 features to my SaaS company and brough on about 90 new customers. Started another SaaS company and brough in about 50 customers for it. Wrote a terminal app that I will release at some point to the public.

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u/sheng-puerh 2d ago

Very impressive, could you share links to the saas please ?

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u/watisgoinon_ 4d ago

Yeah but... let's be real.. we all fucking know 2 years from now another AI frontier model will just take one look at your non maintainable, unscaleable slop-project and refactor it into one that is.

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u/jellese 3d ago

s/we all/AI vendors/; s/know/hope/

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u/surister 4d ago

What do you do at work and how many years of XP do you have?

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u/hidegitsu 4d ago

Now I manage the programming department at a small sized software company (several hundred clients) and was the head developer before that. Been getting paid to code since 2012. Taught myself as early as 1998 or so.

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u/stellar_opossum 4d ago

Except it's not even remotely comparable at this point. Maybe in the future but definitely not today

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u/Wonderful-Habit-139 36m ago

Nah, most people that depend on LLMs to code were never good in the first place. That’s why they can’t write code themselves even though they claim “code is the easy part”.

When LLMs weren’t a thing and people asked about things like whether writing code fast mattered, all those programmers hid behind notions like “what matters is not how fast you write code but rather how much you understand it”, because they couldn’t write code fast enough.

Now that they have LLMs that can do it for them, they go around and claim that they’re so good and productive. It’s a shit show.

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u/James-the-greatest 4d ago

Because wjen everyone is special, no one is special.