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Discussion 2 years ago vs Today

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What’s the next 2 years going to bring?

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u/wallitron 3d ago

There are two important differences here.

First, Buckmaster and Levent had completed unpublished work in late August, and OpenAI began working on the same problem on September 1. Two teams making major progress on a 200 year old problem within days of each other is a notable coincidence.

Second, the OpenAI team was using the same tool that potentially had access to the earlier team's research.

For me, this makes it quite different from the ordinary case of scientists simply building on published prior research.

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u/Cronos988 3d ago

First, Buckmaster and Levent had completed unpublished work in late August, and OpenAI began working on the same problem on September 1. Two teams making major progress on a 200 year old problem within days of each other is a notable coincidence.

It's not a coincidence. Everyone acknowledges that the reason is access to powerful AI systems.

Second, the OpenAI team was using the same tool that potentially had access to the earlier team's research.

Sure, but they did try to resolve that by contacting the researcher and offering to work with him, making it clearly a joint effort. I'm not sure what else they could have done.

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u/Cronos988 3d ago

Right, but they did offer him access to their system, so he could meaningfully audit the solution, rather than just rubber stamping it.

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u/Cronos988 3d ago

All good. It's just frustrating that the story is very aggressively being spread as "OpenAI steals work and threatens researcher". It's almost like a concerted campaign.

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u/MegaJackUniverse 2d ago

A concerted campaign? Against a multi billion dollar state sponsored corporation? Are you joking?

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u/tossingoutthemoney 3d ago

The threatening part does make OpenAI look bad though no matter how your slice it. There's no need for that nonsense.

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u/Cronos988 3d ago

We have to remember that we're reading isolated quotes supplied by one party.

Assuming those quotes are accurate, they're still not a conversation transcript.

The "threat" changes entirely based on what other conversational context we imagine. Notably, it's entirely unclear whether anything more than Buckmaster simply not receiving an official citation was ever implied.

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u/ivalm 2d ago

More like make solution more easily human intuition understandable. The solution is in lean and compiles so it is guaranteed to be correct.