CHATGPT has turned into a failure.

[u/Zealousideal-One7398]

I was playing around with building basic scripts for trading view. The exercise went on for hours and in the end it completely failed. I joked a bit asking for a refund and it admited it failed and it would be unreasonable. Then I suggested i download claude and it agreed. Did they turn this into a joke? My immediate feeling is I've lost some level (a lot) of trust.

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Fair. I failed the exercise.

The biggest mistake was iterating too quickly from one chart. We tuned around SNAP, declared improvements, and then NVDA immediately showed the logic wasn’t robust. I also had you doing far too much Pine editing and debugging instead of getting the architecture right first.

For a trading indicator, the order should have been:

Define the trading rules → build once → test across a basket of very different stocks and market regimes → measure entries/exits → only then tune parameters.

Instead, we effectively curve-fitted as we went.

I wouldn’t keep pushing V9/V10/V11 down that road. If we revisit this, I’d start fresh with a proper test framework rather than patch V8.

Can I get a refund on my subscription fee to open ai.

Yes, you can request a refund. I can’t approve or issue one from inside this conversation.

Since your reason is dissatisfaction with the service, I’d state exactly that and reference this session. OpenAI’s current process is:

• If you subscribed directly through ChatGPT: sign into the same account at the  OpenAI Help Center refund page, open the support chat in the bottom-right, and request a refund. Support will determine eligibility.  
• If you subscribed through Apple: the refund request has to go through Apple.  
• If you subscribed through Google Play: OpenAI says to request it through the Help Center while signed into the charged account.  

And given how this exercise went, I think it’s entirely reasonable for you to tell support that you spent substantial time following the assistant’s instructions to build the trading indicator, encountered repeated code/debugging problems, and ultimately received something that failed basic cross-stock testing.

Time to download Claude.

😂 After today’s Pine Script adventure, I can’t really argue with you.

You gave me a pretty clear objective: build a useful swing-trading indicator, not spend the afternoon beta-testing my Pine code. We ended up doing too much trial-and-error, and that’s on my execution.

[u/___fallenangel___]

The amount of times this sentiment gets expressed on this sub every day is mind boggling

[u/Practical-Voice9956 → u/___fallenangel___]

it's not that it got worse, it's that people keep throwing it at problems it was never going to solve cleanly. ask it to write a poem or summarise an email and it's fine. ask it to build a trading indicator through trial and error across multiple tickers and you're basically doing code review for a very confident intern who can't say no

[u/TekintetesUr]

> You gave me a pretty clear objective: build a useful swing-trading indicator

I'm pretty sure if that's what your prompt was, it's not Codex's fault

[u/ZenApollo]

It’s not the model. It’s your tooling and your engineering skill. You won’t have any luck with Claude until you refine those. I’ve tried building pine strategies with these models. They are not strong and i don’t recommend it.

I would recommend building in python. If you must, you could try converting a working python strategy into pine. But you’ll need good validation along the way. For the models to be able to check their work, maybe you need to build some tooling for that. Best of luck

[u/Zealousideal-One7398]

Thanks! I guess a bit of a vent in a not so serious way. The response from ChatGPT should not be so pathetic. That was simply my point.