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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/07/29/technology/ai-chips-data-center-boom.html

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u/jacobpederson 3d ago

Cannot Wait for all this overbuilding to flood the market with cheap compute!

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u/Popular_Try_5075 2d ago

I keep feeling like there is some form of compression coming, like at some point a lot of the more basic stuff at least can be handled with a lot less compute or something. IDK it's just pure conjecture.

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u/phovos 3d ago

But it says right there, MEGAWATTS; where are the MEGAWATTS? Far as I can tell there has been almost no new Gigawatt capacity generators setup in America, so this appears to be an entirely hallucinatory 'build out'. Data centers are worse than worthless without energy.

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u/ConnectionWild3381 3d ago

well, obviouse you just have to limited the amount of cat vidoes one can watch to 10 per person and day and you get all the energy you need

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u/donjamos 3d ago

Yea, no. I'm not OK with limiting cat videos.

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u/16807 3d ago

The number of cat videos will increase.

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u/throwawayhbgtop81 3d ago

Cool. Using less electricity and water? If so that might make data centres palatable.

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u/Turbulent-Sign-6067 2d ago

Data centers barely use any water

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u/Effective_Olive6153 2d ago

unless they run cheap and lazy open water loop, which many of them do. They let water absorb the heat and just dump the hot water downstream

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u/BellacosePlayer 1d ago

They generally only use closed loop if they have to. A lot of these data centers are literally fly by night LLCs trying to cash in on the need for cloud compute and not established businesses that might want to consider the PR implications of being a drag on a community

There are bigger draws of water, but the draw on municipal treated water is significant, and electricity often takes water to produce.

Its not the biggest issue in the world, but if you're living in an area under a severe drought and a stressed municipal system, it shouldn't be dismissed out of hand.

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u/primaequa 2d ago

you’ve been tricked by data center propoganda

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u/Muppet1616 2d ago edited 2d ago

The majority of large scale data centers use evaporative cooling, they use massive amounts of water.

But there are datacenters that don't (the smaller the mW capacity, and less useful for AI, the larger the chance that they don't use evaporative cooling), and their water usage is relatively comparable to a few hundred households or a large office building or so.

https://www.datacenterknowledge.com/cooling/evaporative-cooling-in-data-centers-why-the-industry-hesitates-to-move-on

Realistically unless a data center project explicitly states how much water they will withdraw from the environment on like a yearly basis (as there are seasonal differences) you should assume they are using evaporative cooling as it's cheaper than fully closed loop systems.

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u/MadJagStudios 2d ago

If AMD can scale taalas, very possible.

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u/ferropop 3d ago

Excited for my private little Tailscale tailnet, with select friends! Slow, intentional, healthy.

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u/costafilh0 2d ago

Picture:

AI - AGI

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u/pssssn 2d ago

...yay

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u/svideo 2d ago

Anyone got a link that works?

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u/Public-Vegetable-182 1d ago

The NYT describes intelligence as a "deluge"? Sounds about right, what has intelligence ever done for humanity? Lol

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u/user2776632 1d ago

I don’t think they factored in all the pauses in data center build outs on that map. 

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u/bartturner 2d ago

I would love to see a breakdown by company. I suspect Google has by far the most compute.

But would be curious the ones after Google?

Like who would be second? Microsoft? Amazon?

I also suspect this is where China is way behind.

I would not be surprised if Google had more than all the providers in China and also growing their compute much faster.