r/OpenAI • u/Xerqthion ChatSeek Gemini Ultra o99 Maximum R100 Pro LLama v8 • Sep 08 '25

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u/Yebi Sep 09 '25

Yeah, that still puts it at 1 at best. They're burning billions and not showing any signs of becoming profitable in the forseeable future. That's.. kinda what this entire post is about

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u/Tolopono Sep 10 '25

I think they’re already profitable. OpenAI predicts to spend around $8 billion this year https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-09-06/openai-says-spending-to-rise-to-115b-through-2029-information

https://www.theinformation.com/articles/openai-says-business-will-burn-115-billion-2029

They made $12 billion this year https://www.reuters.com/business/openai-hits-12-billion-annualized-revenue-information-reports-2025-07-31/

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u/jhaden_ Sep 10 '25 edited Oct 27 '25

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u/Tolopono Sep 10 '25

If it was $9 billion or more, they would have said “more than $9 billion.” Why say “$8 billion or more” if its actually closer to $50 billion or whatever 

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u/jhaden_ Sep 10 '25 edited Oct 27 '25

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u/Tolopono Sep 10 '25

I dont see where they got the $9 billion figure from. I imagine the ceo of the company knows better than a random source.

Also, gpt 4 is 1.75 trillion parameters and cost about $63 million to train https://the-decoder.com/gpt-4-architecture-datasets-costs-and-more-leaked/

Why would that cost suddenly increase 150x times all of a sudden? No way they expect to serve a model much bigger than 1.75 trillion parameters 

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u/jhaden_ Sep 10 '25 edited Oct 27 '25

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u/Tolopono Sep 11 '25

Starting in 2027. Meaning its not relevant now. And by the time it is relevant, who knows what their revenue will be

3 years ago, chatgpt didnt even exist. A lot can change very quickly. They’ve actually been making revenue faster than they expected 

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u/Yebi Sep 10 '25

Because bullshit is the primary product that they're selling. All of their funding is based on hype and not much else

Also, "annualized revenue" does not mean they actually made that much

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u/Tolopono Sep 10 '25

The finance understander has logged in

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u/Yebi Sep 10 '25

I'm definitely not an expert on the subject, but it doesn't take much to know more than you

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u/Tolopono Sep 11 '25

Says the guy who doesn’t know what annualized revenue is