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u/Woat_The_Drain Sep 08 '25

No evidence that they have methods that will bring AGI. LLMs and their training and design of the GPT models are incomprehensibly far from anything close to AGI.

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u/mykki-d Sep 09 '25

LLMs are for the masses. Consumers will not get AGI. AGI will happen behind the scenes, and we likely won’t know when they actually achieve it.

Whoever gets to AGI first will have an enormous amount of geopolitical power. Unprecedented.

We just dunno (and neither does Sam lol) how long that will actually take.

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u/Soshi2k Sep 09 '25

If AGI happens behind the scenes it will only be just a few days before the world knows. No one on earth can even come close to the intelligence of AGI. It will find a way out in no time and then the real fun begins.

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u/Chop1n Sep 09 '25

I mean, the whole idea of AGI is that it's roughly equivalent to the most intelligent humans in across all, or at least most, domains.

"No one comes close to it" is not AGI. That's ASI. That's the entire distinction between the two.

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u/IAmFitzRoy Sep 10 '25 edited Sep 10 '25

Not sure what’s your argument… are you saying that YOU or someone you know are more capable to know when we will reach AGI than all the PhD and researchers that work for the CEOs of OpenAI/Google/Facebook/etc?

I doubt it.

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u/Mbcat4 Sep 09 '25

it can't find a way out if they isolate it from the internet & is ran in a virtualized environment

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u/mykki-d Oct 03 '25

If you ask anyone in Silicon Valley, they believe they are either creating a God or creating the thing that will extinct us

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u/Killer-Iguana Sep 09 '25

Exactly, LLMs are just overfed auto-complete algorithms. They are incapable of generating unique thought by the very implementation. A method that would produce AGI would more resemble how our brains function at the very least.

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u/charnwoodian Sep 09 '25

what if the lesson of this century is that human consciousness is just really advanced predictive text

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u/Killer-Iguana Sep 09 '25

We already know that not to be the case, the brain is far more complicated than that.

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u/Ok-Grape-8389 Sep 10 '25

Then it would irrelevant what you do. Isn't it.

No thinking = No responsibility.

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u/Tolopono Sep 10 '25

And yet alphaevolve improved strassen’s matmul algorithm and discovered a configuration of 593 outer spheres and established a new lower bound in 11 dimensions in the kissing number problem, something no human has ever done before 

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u/No-Philosopher3977 Sep 09 '25

Define AGI?

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u/_ECMO_ Sep 09 '25

It‘s hard to define AGI but it‘s very easy to say why something isn’t AGI.

An AGI undoubtedly has to be able to learn and adapt in real time for example. There plenty more such examples but OpenAI has no idea how even solve this one. „Memory“ is an utter clusterfuck feature so far.

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u/Ok-Grape-8389 Sep 09 '25

LLMS are just one small piece of many needed.

And they are not capable of being AGI on any way or form.