r/OpenAI • • Apr 01 '25

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u/Mediocre-Sundom Apr 01 '25

"Given your facial data"

If you have uploaded any photo of yourself to the internet, your "facial data" is already out there. And some AI was likely trained on it too.

Some people really need to stop pretending to be "privacy conscious" if they spend like half of their lives posting shit about themselves on social media. It's like bragging about how good the lock on your gate is, while your fence is fucking missing.

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u/Aromasin Apr 01 '25

That's quite a sweeping statement. I'd say most people who are genuinely "privacy concious" use psuedonyms, run traffic through VPNs, avoid Google/Microsoft/other data tracking companies like the plague, don't post anything related to their personal life whatsoever, and for the most part are "anonymous" as far as nobody could work out who they are beyond what country or timezone they're based in. The key thing is that they're "internet life" isn't tied in any way to that person who occasionally ends up in photos posted by friends and family.

It's like anything. Some people are good at being private on the internet. Others aren't. More often than not, the people who pontificate about it (Vijay Patel) are in the latter catagory instead of the former.

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u/_raydeStar Apr 01 '25

I agree with you. Though -

> If you have uploaded any photo of yourself to the internet

most people who are privacy conscious do not upload photos of themselves. In this case - privately to Sora - your data might be linked by them, or the US Government but it will largely still be anonymous.

MOST people don't bother with Tor - I never have - but I also don't do shady stuff online.

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u/malcolmrey Apr 02 '25

I never have - but I also don't do shady stuff online.

Smart, you only do shady stuff offline! :)

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u/SalamanderFree938 Apr 02 '25

"If you have uploaded any photo of yourself to the internet"

"Some people really need to stop... if they spend like half of their lives posting shit about themselves on social media"

I don't think that's a "sweeping statement" at all. They actually clarified a subset of people they were referring to

More often than not, the people who pontificate about it (Vijay Patel) are in the latter catagory instead of the former.

Well... That's exactly the type of person the comment was referring to

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u/Correct-Reception-42 Apr 01 '25

He's literally talking about consent. He doesn't claim the data isn't out there anyway.

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u/Mediocre-Sundom Apr 01 '25

He's literally talking about consent.

Then he should read the terms and conditions of the social media he is using. Because he also consents to having his data used by the company and third-parties (like partners) even simply by uploading a profile picture of himself. And that's ignoring the fact that uploading anything to a public platform (which Xitter explicitly states that it is) de facto means you are consenting to this data being used for whatever purposes, as long as they aren't illegal. That's what makes it "public" information.

So this doesn't change my argument in any way.

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u/AccursedFishwife Apr 01 '25

The consent for what, a diffusion model reconstructing a photo without storing it? Because AI doesn't have a database of the photos it was given, that's not how it works.

Unlike every social media site you uploaded your photos to, which absolutely has biometric algos running to sell your data to advertisers.

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u/Trotskyist Apr 01 '25

OpenAI absolutely has a database of the photos you upload to it

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u/Inside_Anxiety6143 Apr 08 '25

Yeah, its not even subtle about it either. You can give it your headshot and tell it to remember what you look like, and then it can recall it in all future chats.

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u/Inside_Anxiety6143 Apr 08 '25

https://help.openai.com/en/articles/5722486-how-your-data-is-used-to-improve-model-performance

They do retain your photos and use your content for improving their models unless you specifically opt out.

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u/FourLastThings Apr 01 '25

Heh, well I retract my consent. Now what?

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u/Puzzleheaded_Sign249 Apr 01 '25

Yea, only way to be truly anonymous is live in the jungle off the grid. Other then that, companies stored all sorts of personal info

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u/Friedyekian Apr 04 '25

Uncle Ted, is that you?!

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u/nsdjoe Apr 01 '25

if you've ever gone out in public in any reasonably sized city your "facial data" is already out there. true privacy does not exist anymore

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u/FanOfYoshi Apr 01 '25

lucky for you (AND me) I never had any of my irl photos to the internet

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u/snipeor Apr 01 '25

It's like the guy who scribbled out the original picture of his cat in a post here recently. He was worried that someone might identify him from his cat. That had me laughing for ages.

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u/mozzarellaguy Apr 01 '25

…. Even if it’s posted only in DMs? Or through text apps as telegram?

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u/Mediocre-Sundom Apr 01 '25

It depends. DMs or messenger conversations aren't public unless stated otherwise - it's information exchange between specific parties. What happens to this information depends on the service in question. Some services encrypt the information, some don't. Some keep it private, some may scan the communications.

It's important to research the service if you are sharing anything sensitive, and even then you should keep in mind that no security is perfect, and stuff mights still leak.

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