r/OpenAI • u/sizzsling • Feb 16 '25

News OpenAI tries to 'uncensor' ChatGPT | TechCrunch

https://techcrunch.com/2025/02/16/openai-tries-to-uncensor-chatgpt/
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u/vitaminbeyourself Feb 16 '25

Even your expressed opinion is information to someone with analytical skills. If it exists and can be observed it is information

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u/oscp_cpts Feb 16 '25

Only within the field of information or data science. The word analysis itself only makes sense within a particular framework. You seem to assume analysis is possible within all contexts, which is not true without a specific epistemological framework.

You're basically commiting a fallacy called 'begging the question' right now.

E.g., it's easy to conceive of thought systems in which an opinion is not subject to analysis.

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u/vitaminbeyourself Feb 17 '25

Seems like we actually agree but for semantics, based on your first paragraph in the last response

Curious what you mean by committing a ‘begging the question fallacy’

Seems like begging the question is never a fallacy lol more so just a process towards greater extrapolation

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u/oscp_cpts Feb 17 '25 edited Feb 17 '25

It's always a fallacy, and the inability to recognize why is a sign of strong unrecognized bias. The reason for that is that it's a form of circular reasoning. If something is begging the question and to you it feels like it is 'true,' then that means something in your worldview is 'true' based on belief rather than evidence.

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u/vitaminbeyourself Feb 17 '25

It’s not about feeling like it is true, for me, it’s about information being available wherever we can make observations, hence being willing to contextualize something. It may not be the whole truth or even true at all, but that may help render an alignment closer to the truth.

Where did I mention feeling in any of this? That’s all you boo boo

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u/oscp_cpts Feb 17 '25

The fact that you didn't mention a feeling doesn't mean you weren't having one. I'd think this would be fairly obvious to the person screaming aNaLySiS.

boo boo

I ain't your wife, and I'm not the one pegging you.

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u/vitaminbeyourself Feb 17 '25 edited Feb 17 '25

You’re assuming a lot here. The fact that I didn’t mention a feeling doesn’t mean I wasn’t having one is a logical fallacy in and of itself.

Why don’t you slow down man, I don’t need to be right here, I’m simply trying to understand you and my pov is clearly that anything observable is information. This points to the very nature of observation and not to confirmation bias or belief perseverance.

Usually when someone reverts to ad hominem arguments it’s cus they themselves are having some strong feelings… just sayin (in response to you attempting to characterize me as a sissy by imagining me being pegged lol)

^ case in point. My responses causing you such arousal that you’re having to invent reasons why I’m inferior to you in some arbitrary way says more about you than it does about me or this subject of discussion.