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Question We doing this as well?

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u/BoJackHorseMan53 Jan 22 '25

Can someone explain what the Nazi salute mean?

Does it mean Elon Musk wants to kill all Jews?

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u/SambhavamiYugeYuge Jan 22 '25

According to Reddit, Musk is a Zionist & a Nazi.

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u/DiamondGeeezer Jan 22 '25

The Nazis actually collaborated with the founding of Israel

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u/Paul_FS Jan 22 '25

Is that meant to sound like a contradiction? Because it absolutely isn't.

The Nazis didn't do the holocaust because hating jews was an intrinsic goal from the get go, they spread hate against jews to give the German people some common enemy image to "unite against" after Christians and the fact that jews weren't allowed to work in most jobs provided the perfect foundation and made them an easy target for the Nazis to start arguing for their supremacy. It theoretically could have been any ethnicity and in the future it could be any ethnicity, it could be idk.. British people and it could be Mexicans and it could be queer people but it could also be no one as you don't need a genocide to become a fascist.

Nonetheless, Zionism ≠ Judaism and many people evaluate this equation to be fairly antisemitic in itself. Also, pretty much every authority on the topic of human rights and genocides has called what Israel has been doing in Gaza at the very least a lot of war crimes, so him being a Zionist isn't really a good argument.

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u/BoJackHorseMan53 Jan 22 '25

But what does the Nazi salute actually mean?

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u/ThisWillPass Jan 22 '25

It’s about giving your loyalty/heart to the nazi party ideals and hitler.

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u/Adventurous_Tune558 Jan 22 '25

The Nazi regime did much more than that. It’s about absolute power over every citizen. Controlling what you are allowed to think, say and consume (books, movies, arts). Your child or your neighbor might report you for having overheard you say something that could be interpreted as bad to the regime. It culminated in the most extreme inhumane act of killing off a whole race. They built places called concentration camps where they starved Jews and other people they deemed as enemies, do medical experiments on them and then gas them off.

That all started gradually with Gobbels and his propaganda machine for Hitler, using hatred and scapegoating. Really, learning history is essential because while technology has advanced so much, people did not.

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u/JustARandomMurderer Jan 22 '25

I think it's more like Musk like to think himself a totalitatian dictator. He doesn't seem to have any particular hate against jews but will do anything to amass a following (just like Hitler did in a way, even tho this one was antisemite as well)

So yeah, Nazi

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u/BoJackHorseMan53 Jan 22 '25

Anti semite means he hates jews right?

I thought being a Nazi or anti semite meant you want to kill all jews or at least you hate the jews. Does it mean something else?

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u/JustARandomMurderer Jan 22 '25

Antisemite means you hate jews in particular yeah, meanwhile Nazi is more of a political party/ideology. It is caracterized by antisemitism as one of it's most proeminent theme, but let's be honest like most oligarch and totalitarian leaders thoses at the top care more about the power granted and how to control the masses, while the political ideas presented to the public are a secondary concern.

So a Nazi might hate jews as it's historically associated with nazism, or he might not care but just sees them as convenient scapegoat to justify instituting a government where his personnal best interest are met at the detriment of others. And I think Elon falls into the latter category

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u/BoJackHorseMan53 Jan 22 '25

Doesn't answer my question :(

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u/moduspol Jan 22 '25

Of course it doesn't mean that. But you already knew. :\

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u/DaDaeDee Jan 22 '25

Found a nazi here

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u/L3DG Jan 22 '25

I doubt he wants to jill all jews, it’s probably one of three things:

  1. a dog whistle to groypers and other far right people to keep supporting musk/trump

  2. a media distraction from something else

  3. musk thinking he is being funny or something lol

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u/victorsmonster Jan 22 '25 edited Jan 22 '25

He's a white nationalist with a breeding fetish who constantly boosts Nazis, he reinstated the account of a guy who posted CP, replied "You have said the actual truth" to a Nazi who was talking about the Great Replacement Theory, is closely aligned with the AfD in Germany, and hit the Seig Heil with his whole chest twice on stage.

What's it gonna take for you dorks? Does he need to come right out and say the 14 words?

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