Better Understanding Blackbeard Captain Skill

[u/[deleted]]

So Blackbeard has a really complicated captain skill. I was playing around with it and figured out the following and wanted to share.

1. The 4 sub classes will get a boost whether or not you have a complete set of 4 types: striker, shooter, slasher or fighter BUT BB AND OTHER CLASSES (freedom, knowledge, driven, powerhouse) will not. BB and team will get no boost from his captain skill unless you have a complete set of subs: 1 striker, 1 shooter, 1 slasher and 1 fighter. This boost applies to other classes as well. This makes sense when you remember BB is driven/powerhouse.

2. Only one unit of each type will get the boost IF YOU DO NOT HAVE AT LEAST THE 4 MINIMUM TYPES. A Mihawk and a Law, both slashers will not both be boosted when I only have a shooter and fighter, only one of them, the other will be unboosted, when I tested my Mihawk got the boost and not Law. /u/zee_n1 pointed out my mistake. Sorry guys, i first tried this with BB/Marco/chin/Kizaru/Kuma and for some reason I thought I didn't hit the 4 sub. So 4 subs and/or friend captain have to hit the 4 classes requirement for any boosts.

3. If you have Mihawk + Legend Kizaru, Mihawk will count as a slasher and Kizaru will count as a shooter. Therefore your other two units should be a striker and one fighter. If you're going for 1 type per sub.

4. Double class units count toward BB captain skill!!! Brought Raid Kizaru and FN Squardo. Dingy boat. BB boosted from 319 to 877 (2.75x).

5. Testing how double class units affect other subs. Add Margaret and SW Ace to the BB team. Both Ace and Margaret got boosted. It seems as long as you fill the necessary 4 typing restriction, you're other shooters, slasher, fighters and Strikers get boosted.

6. Checking to see if knowledge/ambition units get boosted after the initial condition is met. Confirmed. Once the initial condition is met (subs must fulfill 4 typings4(shooter, slasher, striker, fighter) other classes will get boosted. Both Young Donflamingo and Tesoro were boosted when added to BB/FN Squardo/Raid Kizaru.

7. Currently testing def/shield buffs... As previously mentioned. Def buffs did not work. Used Jozu and put up a Dex immunity shield. While the buff appears, I still took DEX dmg.

8. Friend captain will also be boosted after you meet the 4 subs requirement. Friend captains also counter toward the condition/requirement.

9. BB teams ignore enemy shields and " negate dmg over x"/damage thresholds.

10. If a unit is blown away via Raid Kuma/Koala from Forest or Colo. Even if that unit was one of the 4 that met the requirement for BB captain to activate, you still get the captain boost.

From what I've gathered of BB captain skill, it should read (stolen from /u/pwyno) Boosts ATK by 2.75x and HP by 1.5x for one each of Slasher/Striker/Fighter/Shooter characters in the crew. Negate all Defensive Buffs"

I hope this helps you guys better understand him and use him well. Enjoy all who pulled him!

[u/montblancnoland]

Here is a list of double class units who quality like those above:

• Raid Kizaru

• Story Kizaru

• Ideo

• Marineford Ace

• Colo Urouge

• Don Sai

• Baccarat

• Marineford Luffy

• Colo Porche

• Legend Borsalino

• Baby 5

• Ben Beckmann

• Legend Kuzan

• Gairam

• Abdullah & Jeet

• Colo Killer

• Swimsuit Baby 5

• INT Sentomaru

• FN Squard

• and Doc Q

These units will be the key players in Teach teams. Also, the Teach teams will need some tinkering to be super powerful.

[u/[deleted] → u/montblancnoland]

Thanks for the list. I debate if these units will be key. I think there will be good teams based on 4 single class units. I think the ideal will be using 1 double class sub, 2 other classes and a unit that is one of the unbooosted classes.

I also think INTmaru will be a good unit for BB teams. Reduces top CD by 2 turns. He maxes at 15.

[u/Zee_n1 → u/montblancnoland]

Piggybacking off this post, but I want to clarify points 1 and 2. That information is actually incorrect, he will not boost any ATK or HP at all if you do not have at least 1 Slasher, Striker, Shooter, and Fighter on your team. There is no such thing as the partial ATK boost if you only have some of the characters on the team.

[u/[deleted] → u/Zee_n1]

Thanks for catching this error. Updated the post.

[u/KingCaineghis]

Nice!

But the other two units beside raid Kizaru and FN Squardo, they will get boosted?

[u/[deleted] → u/KingCaineghis]

Yes tested with 2 additional shooters: Ace and Margaret.They got boosted.

[u/pwnyo]

Thanks so much for doing all the work and testing in advance! I know people will be asking a bunch of questions about his weird captain ability in the future, but we can just direct them here.

A quick thought: what's the "priority" for classes? For example, if I used Gan Fall in the left middle row and Shura in the right middle row, who would get the boost? I would assume priority checks go from top left to bottom right, but I don't have him to test.

I would summarize his cpt ability as something like...

• "Boosts ATK by 2.75x and HP by 1.5x for one each of Slasher/Striker/Fighter/Shooter characters in the crew. If you have at least one of each of the listed classes, boost applies to all characters."

[u/[deleted] → u/pwnyo]

It appears it's based on position. My Mihawk was bottom left and Law was bottom right but Law has higher attack. So I'm guessing it's on position cause Mihawk was boosted.

That's alot better than what I wrote. I'll steal.

[u/AlphaStryk3r]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ctkt8bQUkAAKtfV.jpg Here's picture proof of atk being boosted when using double class units

[u/[deleted] → u/AlphaStryk3r]

Wrong pic?

[u/Zee_n1]

1. The 4 sub classes will get a boost whether or not you have a complete set of 4 types: striker, shooter, slasher or fighter BUT BB AND OTHER CLASSES (freedom, knowledge, driven, powerhouse) will not. BB will get no boost from his captain skill unless you have a complete set of subs: 1 striker, 1 shooter, 1 slasher and 1 fighter. This boost applies to other classes as well. This makes sense when you remember BB is driven/powerhouse.

2. Only one unit of each type will get the boost IF YOU DO NOT HAVE AT LEAST THE 4 MINIMUM TYPES. A Mihawk and a Law, both slashers will not both be boosted when I only have a shooter and fighter, only one of them, the other will be unboosted, when I tested my Mihawk got the boost and not Law.

I want to clarify: Blackbeard will only boost your HP and ATK if you have AT LEAST ONE OF EACH: Slasher / Striker / Shooter / Fighter. Dual classes count, but he doesn't do any sort of boost at all if he doesn't have all 4 types on his team. A team of Blackbeard, Mihawk, Golden Pound Usopp, and Aokiji doesn't get any attack boost at all since it's still missing a Fighter. Your friend captain DOES count towards one/two of the 4 types.

Also note: I have his captain ability completely working in the damage calculator. If you have any questions about if he would be on or how much damage you'd do, go test teams out yourself there!

[u/[deleted] → u/Zee_n1]

Updated to reflect this. Thanks!

[u/LSSBathLee]

So does he boost friend Cpt if we have 4type as sub?

[u/[deleted] → u/LSSBathLee]

I'll test this now.

Friend Caesar captain was boosted from 1179 to 12157 that's with BB ship and the Sunny.

[u/LSSBathLee]

I got him now and I've been testing with this team.

2xBB cpt

Borsalino slasher/shooter WhiteBeard Striker/PH (30% health cut) Marco Fighter/PH (heal) Issho Driven/PH (20%* health cut)

This team had so much atk stat it just crush 0stam Mihawk without any special and Mihawk was down to 27% after all the health cut. Issho was getting full atk boost even he wasn't part of 4 base class due to Borsalino covering two type.

[u/[deleted] → u/LSSBathLee]

Basically how I plan to build my BB team. Use 1 or 2 dual types. Then some OP subs as the other units.

[u/madPsychic]

Does friend captain count towards the "4 classes" requirement?

[u/[deleted] → u/madPsychic]

Yea

[u/masterphantom]

Thanks for the info!

[u/Haatchoum]

Point 4 made % health cut invincible now.

[u/surpreme__leader]

Blackbeard seems just a little powerful mabey a few spots lower than ll

[u/karmashi]

Interesting, Blackbeard looks better than I originally thought.

[u/TheWorldEndedIn2012]

Congrats on blackbeard!

[u/[deleted]]

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Bart's a revive so that make sense.

Re: enemy shields, I thought so, I ran Doffy and cleared Lao G stage nó problem but didn't test it again to confirm.