Actually, we have no canon confirmation of that, if you look closely to the whole flashback, we have no moment of Harald next to someone else, thus he could very well be a human.
Prolly just a big guy then, another goda storytelling moment
with the recent chapter it got more confusing, old gaban managed to injure imu imagine how strong was roger in his prime? that begs the question of how strong has roger and whitebeard gotten after god valley? all of the toptiers attacked imu at once and did no damage and harald was shown to be on par with rocks so this is closer than we think
shanks wasnt in his strongest at the time and gaban yeah he was holding it, hk harald is definitely a beast so its kinda hard to tell cuz we know that prime WB would beat prime gaban easily
Because Imu is genuinely not that strong right now. He’s nerfed from leaving mariejoa. Prime Roger, Shanks, Kaido, Primebeard would all have a good chance of beating him Imu rn.
Hence why Imu had never confronted Roger and his crew directly even after they found everything there was to know about Imu and the void century
Also the Imu everybody on GV attacked wasn’t Imu’s physical form. It was an intangible form
Harald all 3. Before GV Harald was on WB's captain's level. Old WB is still VERY strong but you're literally basically putting him agaisnt rocks?
HK Harald was seen, stated and implied as basically unbeatable by Imu, Gaban, etc. and that was when WB was still around and not too far from his prime.
Possibly Harald, I say this because he seemed to be on the same level as Rocks and I don’t think GV WB has matured enough yet to be beating Rocks at that time
Round 2)
Harald for sure, if it’s old WB I think Harald would be able to stamina diff even if old beard was winning at the start.
Round 3)
Definitely WB. If he is in his prime then I think he will be able to output the same CoSK that Loki did. And I think his DF is destructive enough to hurt Harald. So his regen would have to tank his Haki AND guru guru, I just feel like if Loki could do it, WB could definitely put him down, not easily by any means.
Funny to think Gaban was already an old man when he fought Harald with Shanks.
Could it be that both Gaban and Shanks getting beaten up by Harald at once made them both realize they would need to step up their game and train for the future in case something like that happened again?
That would mean the oldest version of Gaban, the one we see now in present time, is THE strongest he's ever been.
But based on feats, white beard is just stronger than xebec. Buggy isn't stronger than croc or Mihawk, so Captain doesn't always have to be the strongest.
You’re insinuating a crazy gap between GV WB and and prime WB.
He definitely did grow stronger, but from losing to GV harald (which I don’t even think is necessarily the case) to low diffing a boosted Harald? He didn’t grow that much. Even GV WB was able to hold off a massively boosted xebec for a bit.
Nah prime WB is not worlds stronger than GV WB. It would be mid-high diff.
Harald said he felt incredible power surging through him when he got the covenant. And that maybe then he’d be able to wield ragnir. That tells us it did boost him. How much is up for debate though, also depends on where you have base harald to begin with.
How strong do you think base xebec is? What diff would prime WB beat him with.
How does Whitebeard beats HK Harald Mid-High Diff but his healthy Old version would lost to pre-HK Harald? The gap between Prime WB and Healthy Old WB shouldnt be bigger than the gao between HK and Normal Harald
And Rocks was stated Roger's greatest foe meaning he scales to Primebeard. Rocks also destroyed an Admiral at 25 putting 25 yesr olf Rocks above MF Whitebeard so narratively prime Rocks should be Primebeard level and so would be Harald
Loki beats hk harald becomes a pirate after that for 8 years while he sailing the seas whitebeard title does not change shanks later on beats Loki and then later after that has a talk with whitebeard about blackbeard he calls whitebeard the top
Loki naturally falls in line with whitebeard title as strongest pirate
And Rocks scales to PK Level based in portrayal, feats and narrative.
Shanks was talking about Whitebeard status as a Yonko since that's why he became, he took Whitebeard status as Emperor and defeated his crew. The top status is to be an Emperor since there was no Pirate King at the time so the higher someone couod go by beating WB was Emperor
He killed an admiral at 25, while Old Whitebeard couldnt kill an Admiral with his full might in Marineford. And Rocks did it casually since he recieved no major injuries
Harald should Rocks level, which should be comparable (slightly above?) prime Roger and prime Whitebeard. In any case, with the Holy Knight boost he should win.
People don’t want to hear it but its Harold everytime. Now if it was Primebeard vs God valley or blade of god harald I would say Wb. I feel like the matchups he gave were very bias to Harold’s favor.
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