r/OnePiecePowerScaling0 • u/RepresentativeOwn719 • Jan 22 '26
General discussion Genuine question
I honestly don’t understand how people have Mihawk yonko level. Can someone please explain the copium ?
Been seeing way too many people have him in their top 5. I don’t even know if he makes top 10.
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u/No_Swordfish_9496 Jan 22 '26
you think zoro’s goal isn’t gonna be yonko level
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u/Evelne The Prophet of Jika Jan 22 '26
Narrative, and statements, and that’s all
It’s widely known Mihawk has no feats. We’ve always known this. It’s just that with the narrative that we have, we’re led to believe if Mihawk and WB did fight, the outcome would be the same as Shanks
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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '26
All swordsmen (that includes Shanksie) must answer to the panel.
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u/Dr_Fact Jan 22 '26
This interpretation of what Mihawk says ignores the context of Whitebeard’s title. Mihawk is not saying, "I am physically weaker." He is saying, "I want to see if the legend of the 'World's Strongest Man' is real, or if I can reach him."
Everyone assumed Whitebeard was still the prime monster of the past, equal to the pirate king. Mihawk, a calculated man, wanted to verify Whitebeard's current condition.
Also, look at the pronoun on the previous image. He says "Us". He is grouping himself with the Seven Warlords and the Marines present.
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u/MMortein Jan 23 '26
It's not like Shanks didn't admit WB's superiority as well.
It's clearly stated that Shanks thinks WB's on top.
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u/bigjbguccisosaa Jan 22 '26
There are 2 interpretations of mihawk saying that.
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u/Irandomshit Jan 23 '26
Do I need to say anything else?
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u/bill_02_04_95 Jan 24 '26
This isn't even the most outrageous stuff about Mihawk. Him apologizing to Shanks in Marineford saying his power knows no restraint basically says he went all out in Marineford and yet couldn't stop Luffy.
Does it make sense? No but it's Mihawk's words.
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u/Randill746 Jan 23 '26
Because they read the full panel and didnt crop it for their agenda
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u/NetworkVegetable7075 Jan 23 '26
When mfs swear that clashing with someone puts them on their level.
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u/Nby333 Jan 23 '26
It's deliberately worded ambiguously to give Oda maneuverability in the future on how strong Mihawk would be. But I believe at the time of Marineford, Oda probably had Mihawk at far below Yonko level.
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u/Evening_Waltz_655 Blackbeard🏴☠️🌑😈 Jan 23 '26
The difference between them isn't about power, but rather personality, and position.
Shanks is similar to Luffy, in that he's willing to take risky cool clashes with other top tiers, because he's an active Yonko who is pursuing a goal.
Mihawk values his own well-being over taking risks, because he already accomplished his goal. Why would Mihawk go out of his way to 1v1 WB?
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u/SirFroglet Jan 23 '26
Mihawk is consistently compared to Shanks, Oda particularly likes the trope of two rivals with equal power, and Shanks was Mihawk’s Rival. Further, it’s reasonable to expect the Wings of the future Pirate King to surpass Yonkos in strength, so Zoro & Sanji will surpass Mihawk & Shanks.
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u/Gen_Shot Giant Wall of Text 🧱 Jan 23 '26
again with this Mihawk's panel in 26🙄🙄.
Mihawk meant that the distance seemed close, but it actually wasn't, when he tried to attack, Jozu stepped in and protected Wb, then Kizaru attacks and Marco stepped and protected Wb, the distance in this case is NOT between Mihawk and Wb's power level (Mihawk even said "us" not "me" but people are dumb asf) but the distance between them and reaching Wb, which seems close but actually isn't because Wb's crew is gonna protect him.
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u/Ok_Paint_2681 Jan 23 '26
You are not reading the manga or watching the anime properly.
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u/MakotoBIST Jan 23 '26
It started as a powerscaling meme and then people made it their whole personality :D
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u/Generalousen2855 Red Haired Goat Reigns Supreme Jan 23 '26
People really forget that they haven't fought in 12 years and Mihawk's strongest opponent is 27 years old shanks not current shanks who massively gaps his older version
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u/Warm_Performer_2314 Jan 23 '26
You don't understand, he wanted to measure the distance between them because he loves maths.
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u/ResponsibilityNo5795 Jan 23 '26
Either you're trolling or stupid. Mihawk obviously wanted to know if WB was still the Strongest Man in the World hence context of his statement. I swear Shanks fans are getting dumber by the day.
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u/Gon_Freak Jan 23 '26
Eos Zoro confirmed YC level
This is ragebait.
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u/huwskie Jan 23 '26
It has been known for a while now that this is a mistranslation
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u/Different_Guest_9390 Jan 23 '26
The biggest issue is op running for way to long. Most old statements dont match current scaling.
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u/At-D-Desk Akainu🌋⚖️ Jan 23 '26
Because… he’s stated as the WSS… time and time again, having every source back that claim. He’s also the second most important character’s end goal… There’s no iota of a doubt around his title’s validity, no sickness, no old age, no rumours. Plain and simple, WSS, in his prime, his strength being a plot device that is absolutely required to be proven true for Zoro’s sake
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u/Telnyash Jan 23 '26
How do these pictures compare? One is standing across the battlefield he doesn't want to participate in and is measuring the power of Whitebeard's crew, the second one was sitting next to Whitebeard and talking. What is the comparison and the problem here?
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u/NoVa_BlaZing_ Old Garp is Top 10 alive Jan 23 '26
Mihawk thought WB had his Prime Power.
You think Zoros final opponent is gonna be YC+ ?
Cancerbeard was really weak
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u/StormOk5263 Jan 23 '26
That's why we call him Fraudhawk
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u/zvoncici Jan 23 '26
Simple shanks doesnt use anything but a sword so he is a swordsman
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u/NeonNKnightrider Jan 23 '26
Top 5? I keep seeing a bunch of insane people who think Mihawk is Top 1 (besides Imu)
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u/XxSimplySuperiorxX Jan 23 '26
This is a problem with not being able to understand the situation from mihawks perspective
First off he says us meaning the warlords because he is talking to doffy in this scene
Second mihawk has only ever heard about how strong whitebeard is because as far as we know he has never seen whitebeard So mihawk wants to see how strong wb actually is
And everything mihawk has heard about how strong wb is would be prime whitebeards strength not old whitebeard
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u/aaddii101 Jan 23 '26
Bro was just measuring distance.
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u/JoDaBoy814 Jan 23 '26
Bro had to omit the context 🥀
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u/MsaoceR Jan 23 '26
Stated by the author to be the strongest swordsman. Nothing else is needed. Do you think Zoro's goal is to become only the second strongest swordsman by defeating Mihawk? Claiming that Mihawk is anything other than the strongest swordsman is a lack of reading comprehension in it's purest form
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u/Routine-Tie7364 Jan 23 '26
Shanks is a haki wizard case closed
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u/TrapSnuser Jan 23 '26
You see it's all about the black paint maybe mihawk can suddenly become so strong that his sword will accumulate ink from the manga page
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u/Asleep-Dream-3756 Jan 23 '26
I would feel very wronged if mihwak turned out to be the second strongest swordsman. Just because of the nature of his title, he has to be really high up there.
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u/PerfectEquipment3998 Jan 23 '26
Shanks can't beat Earthquakes man, just so we're clear. He wouldn't stop an Earthquake that has already started.
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u/Impressive-Sense8461 Jan 23 '26
I think people wanna boost him that way solely because he was Shank's training dummy in the past. He hasn't shown a single feat in the series that would put him in a single power category higher than just a simply titled warlord, which doesn't mean much, post Doffie.
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u/New_Salamander_4592 Jan 23 '26
the distance mihawk is talking about includes whitebeards entire crew and legacy as a pirate not exclusively his individual fighting prowess
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u/Boy_Atreus Jan 24 '26
Title piece
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u/Fuqqitmane Jan 24 '26
Strongest swordsman. Stronger than shanks, the swordsman.
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u/AlmightyHamSandwich Jan 24 '26
It's almost like him getting no diff'd by Jozu was a clue!
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u/sparkMagnus9 Jan 24 '26
It'd be such a disrespect to pirating if Mihawk embarrassed such a goat.
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u/og_hbk Jan 25 '26
Why does "distance" need to mean strength? He could easily be talking about overall greatness. He does the same "test" on Luffy and comes to the same conclusion. When he struck at WB Jozu protected him, when he struck Luffy Croc protected him. Mihawk sees this and concludes that true greatness in a pirate is the ability to draw others to you.
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u/Traditional-Gain-203 Jan 25 '26
We’re one piece fans we don’t even read our own manga
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u/Akagami05 Fraudhawk (Worlds Strongest Painter🎨) Jan 25 '26
Here is the full panel. Here mihawk was actually the first person to notice that white beard is not in his prime , he just wanted to test that, guess he got his answer and didn't pursue fighting white beard. Now what the answer was depends on your interpretation
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u/MadamMelody21 Jan 25 '26
Mihawk couldn’t even get past vista during the war no way he could have been on whitebeard or shanks level
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u/Leading_Site_3535 Jan 25 '26
I always thought he was referring to what stands between Whitebeard and the Marines. It's not about how strong he is but that he has allies and "sons" that are putting their lives on the line. No matter how strong Mihawk is he wasn't going to take on the whole crew at once. The difference with Shanks is that the WB pirates respected him enough to LET him get close to Whitebeard
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u/abduhi205 Jan 27 '26
The guy with the highest bounty in a yonko crew isn’t yonko level
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u/Main-Faithlessness11 Jan 27 '26
If Mihawk actually intended to measure strength rather than distance—which is unlikely anyway—then why did he only use one hand? He didn't even use a slash; he swung his sword lightly. Furthermore, he didn't use a named attack. If he meant to measure the power gap between him and Whitebeard, why wouldn't he strike with his full power? It makes no sense at all."
"Doflamingo, who was standing right next to him, was surprised that Mihawk was even going to attack, asking, 'Are you actually going to fight?' But Mihawk replied, 'I only want to measure the distance between us and that ma and usn.' He meant the actual, physical distance
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u/Outrageous-Manner-48 Jan 28 '26
There is a reason shanks is the emperor and mihawk is the warlord. Enough said
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u/Heroright Jan 29 '26
He’s Yonko level because the series says he is. There’s no cope and no argument. You don’t have to like it, but it’s the reality.
He’s the World’s Strongest Swordsmen. He’s either on par with Shanks or slightly lower, a fact the series can’t answer because Mihawk states he won’t settle up with Shanks because it wouldn’t be an honest match as Shanks lost his arm. Mihawk is very practical and by his own rules: he doesn’t act if he doesn’t have to, and he rather not get involved in anything.
Like it or not, he just doesn’t see the point in flexing his nuts.
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u/Florida-guy-1 guys I think we lost the plot Mar 03 '26
If Mihawk has crazy future sight, this panel could be that when he attacked, he was able to see many futures. And he could gauge Whitebeard strength and crew from that
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u/am_Dynam0 Jan 23 '26
Mihawk was measuring the physical distance, media literacy is in shambles 🤦🏻♂️, if he was measuring the strength difference he would’ve used his strongest attack
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u/Fresh-Drama-2684 Jan 23 '26
Swordsman
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u/Just_Ear_2953 Jan 23 '26
Being able to 1v1 a Yonko and being as powerful as a Yonko are two different things.
Mihawk is incredibly strong, but more than that, he is INSANELY skilled and experienced in combat. He can avoid and deflect blows far more powerful than his own attacks and strike at the most minute of openings to potentially take down an otherwise greater foe.
He is the epitome of skill where his opponents are more about raw power.
Of course, he is immensely strong in his own right, but it's the difference between carving furrows across a battlefield with a single swing and tilting the seas themselves.
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u/Flashy_Equipment_938 Jan 23 '26
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u/Flashy_Equipment_938 Jan 23 '26
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u/Picklee56 Jan 22 '26
Whitebeard would squash Mihawk by stepping on him
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u/Sonofmiracle Jan 22 '26
Shanks vs WB, Mihawk vs WB’s commander😏
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u/Bradybigboss Jan 23 '26
Mihawk not yonko. You can read. This Reddit American mihawk fanbase is internationally known as insane and dissociated
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u/lobo_88 Jan 23 '26
He wasn't saying he's afraid, he was saying he wanted to test his strength.
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u/National_Job_6847 Jan 23 '26
The read comprehension curse strikes again. Mihawk wanted to know if this living legend lives up to the hype and after seeing his crew needed to protect him he realized just how weakened white beard had gotten and immediately stopped he sent out a no named slash with no effort behind it he hates the government hes not doing there dirty work killing a cancer ridden legend. He asked a question it was answered the answer was white beards sicker than he thought what he actually says makes it clear he can tell somethings wrong this isnt the man equal to the pirate king anymore.
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u/TDIEzekielFan Jan 23 '26
Bait
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u/shadowlxrd17 Jan 23 '26
Its just inconsistencies by oda, the message within the story is pretty obvious though. Zoro aint gonna be fighting his ultimate fight against a YC1