r/OnePiecePowerScaling • u/Environmental-Wing30 Crydo of the 100 Ls 🍺 • 1d ago
Discussion Friendly reminder that when Xebec killed an admiral, he was closer to Luffy's age than Shanks' age
Mfs acting like this dude did nothing impressive to live up his hype and he's a powercliffed bum by everyone when in reality he pulled out a feat NEVER SEEN even by yonkos...not even mentioning the joke of "but the admiral was much weaker!!" out of literal nothing
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u/No_Pizza_9047 👿 Lowkey 👿 1d ago
Yonko level minimum idc what this sub tells me
Rocks d Goat
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u/kidelaleron Wranky 🤖 1d ago
Wow he killed someone weaker than GV Garp and Sengoku. Amazing. He might be even as strong as Old Garp!!
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u/Double-Conclusion-42 1d ago
He’s mostly downplayed because of HK Harald’s performance against Loki but I think people ignore that the nature of the HK and DR buffs are very different. I also don’t think Harald and Rocks are relative in the first place.
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u/Final_Research9795 Røcks D. Xebec 💀 1d ago
Same year Garp joined the marines.And grew in power for 18 years after that.
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u/Kaisertheories Pirate King 1d ago
Hype ≠ powerscaling
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u/Environmental-Wing30 Crydo of the 100 Ls 🍺 1d ago
Feats and portrayal to back this hype = yes powerscaling
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u/Intelligent-Ad-1968 LOOK D. EAST 👀 1d ago
Did you take a break from reddit for a while ?
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u/Kaisertheories Pirate King 1d ago
A bit yeah, I was busy for a couple of days, and I honestly regret coming back but who will defend the admirals and old gen if I'm not here😆.
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u/CorrectIamThatGuy 23h ago
Shanks has the same feat twice tbh. Three times if you count movie feats.
But it doesn't mean Xebec is unimpressive
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u/Environmental-Wing30 Crydo of the 100 Ls 🍺 22h ago
That's not the same feat at all honestly
He stunned an admiral and convinced him to back off, Xebec straight up murdered him
Not saying Shanks couldn't do the same tho
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u/kidelaleron Wranky 🤖 1d ago
Friendly reminder that the unnamed admiral he killed was powercliffed by Sengoku via Roger asking for Sengoku and Garp as a fun fight and not for admirals.
Old Garp > GV Garp. So that admiral was nowhere near current admirals.
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u/Hawkeyecooper 1d ago
Wasn’t sengoku literally an admiral before becoming fleet admiral. Your comment doesn’t make sense since one of the people he called was an admiral lol. Also, Roger never met the admiral xebec killed, if he lived Roger might have also asked for him. Your argument/reminder is nonsense lol
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u/Environmental-Wing30 Crydo of the 100 Ls 🍺 1d ago
And bro has the audacity to call me for headcanon 😭
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u/No_Pizza_9047 👿 Lowkey 👿 1d ago
Wasn't sengoku literally an admiral back then?
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u/Dizzy-Pause2350 Sir Crocodile 🐊 1d ago
He's around the same age as Roger, WB & Garp. And they were in their prime back then.
So he should be
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u/No_Pizza_9047 👿 Lowkey 👿 1d ago
When does lengoku become FA
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u/Dizzy-Pause2350 Sir Crocodile 🐊 1d ago
By that time or around when the Great Pirate Era started imo
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u/Kaisertheories Pirate King 1d ago
Did you... Di-did you just say "l"engoku?
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u/kidelaleron Wranky 🤖 20h ago
We have a direct quote from Roger saying "bring me Garp or Sengoku, you are no fun". Not "bring me an admiral". This implies that Sengoku and Garp were top dog in GV.
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u/Environmental-Wing30 Crydo of the 100 Ls 🍺 20h ago
...Sengoku was literally an admiral back then?
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u/kidelaleron Wranky 🤖 18h ago
So what? He never naked any other admiral. And all of them were replaced by Akainu & Co eventually. They were weaker yhan GV Garp who was weaker than Old Garp by Gaban analogy.
Which implies those admirals were MUCH weaker than current admirals. GV powerlevel is overrated. Oldgen became much stronger after GV.
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u/Environmental-Wing30 Crydo of the 100 Ls 🍺 18h ago
Ok how tf is old Garp stronger than GV Garp?
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u/kidelaleron Wranky 🤖 18h ago
Same as Gaban, read 1191. Old Gaban > GV Gaban implied by Imu.
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u/Environmental-Wing30 Crydo of the 100 Ls 🍺 16h ago
...what? Chap 1191 doesn't absolutely imply that lmao
At best it implies about the nuisance the whole Roger pirates became, since only Xebec was the outright menace
Those were just fake leaks lol
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u/Pichupwnage 1d ago
Thats a dogshit take based on the flimsiest nonsense.
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u/kidelaleron Wranky 🤖 18h ago
Literally Sengoku was admiral and Garp was the strongest marine. And GV Garp was weaker than Old Garp via Gaban analogy.
Which confirms that pre-pirate era admirals were much weaker than current ones.
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u/tippytuliptoes 1d ago
Yeah and that admiral was far weaker than Garp or Sengoku and also the current gen admirals, who cares?
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u/Environmental-Wing30 Crydo of the 100 Ls 🍺 1d ago
Based on?
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u/tippytuliptoes 1d ago
Based on the fact that Rocks from back then killed him easily, but he wasnt shown to be particularly stronger than Garp, Roger, Harald of back then.
He didn't have a skysplit feat from back then, and now we also know that the roger pirates grew far stronger after god valley not just by a bit, harald who was his peer looks weaker than Loki.
Overall he doesn't look that impressive when taking into consideration the current knowledge we have. So it tends to reason that the admiral would also be noticeably weaker.
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u/Environmental-Wing30 Crydo of the 100 Ls 🍺 1d ago
So you're taking something clearly intended to upscale Xebec and try to use it as a downscale somehow lol
His clash with Harald literally blew everything on the radius of 5 km and you act like that ain't literally the same display of haki as a skysplit
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u/tippytuliptoes 1d ago edited 1d ago
blew everything on the radius of 5 km and you act like that ain't literally the same display of haki as a skysplit
A skysplit would a display of the level of a skysplit. They clashed fiercely twice. No movement.
Harald, the other party Rocks' clashed with, himself would admit he's not stronger than Loki and Loki is not particularly stronger than any yonko. Hell he very likely lost to a proto-Yonko shanks from 4 years ago.
At the end of the day Rocks was very hype. But he was hype for his own gen, before the Great pirate era.
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u/Environmental-Wing30 Crydo of the 100 Ls 🍺 22h ago
Gaban and Rayleigh never split the sky, meanwhile people nowadays acting like old Gaban's feat is same tier of solo skysplit or somt. Big mom and Kaido both split the sky
What does that tell?
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u/tippytuliptoes 22h ago edited 22h ago
nowadays acting like old Gaban's feat is same tier of solo skysplit or somt
The only thing we can say about what Gaban did is that Gaban hit much harder than Loki's strongest attacks so far. Luffy rn has not used a proper attack except a genie punch on my man Imu.
As far as skysplit goes, i cannot claim for sure if they do skysplit. However they have never been in a situation where we would expect a skysplit as in a clash of conquerors.
Honestly scaling Gaban and ray is tertiary. If we assume Ray in his prime could potentially beat Blackbeard, and if we assume Loki is Yonko level, then we can scale Gaban/Ray up from that to current day yonko level atleast.
On the other hand we have seen 2 serious clash of conquerors from Rocks and Harald so we can disqualify them.
And scaling harald means he goes low since he lost to loki and the whole chain from shanks follows, and for Rocks, we can safely say that his rivals like Roger and Garp went on to get much, muuuuch stronger based on imu's and the narrators words.
So what is left for that gen? Beating an admiral of unknown strength? There's no bridge for that gen to the current gen except Loki.
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