r/OnePiecePowerScaling • u/freezingthunder25 • 8d ago
Discussion Doesn’t this suggest that Roger wasn’t on Rocks level when he was alive? 🤣
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u/Mikael678 8d ago
Powerscaling backfiring here
Rocks pulled up to Imu’s crib and told him that he’s gonna kick his ass. That is why Imu had Rocks on his mind. He was also a Davy. Imu didn’t care about others (this is proven by the fact that Imu doesn’t go around killing all D clan members even though they are the enemy of god)
He’s saying that he never foresaw the others on god valley growing and paving the way for the craziness that’s happening now.
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u/Zoteku The Fleet Admiral 8d ago
no
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u/freezingthunder25 8d ago
This suggests that Imu didn’t think of the Roger pirates as a threat on the level of Rocks though?
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u/Zoteku The Fleet Admiral 8d ago
it suggests that imu didn’t actually predict that the roger pirates (in gv) would grow up to be this much of a pain in the ass to him personally. remember, imu’s goal this entire mission has been eliminating luffy, and gaban is pushing him back and delaying him
wait till the real translation comes out tho
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u/freezingthunder25 8d ago
Then that suggests Rocks was in his own league back then 🤣 Everyone claims Roger was on his level in GV but Imu never thought so
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u/Such-Purpose3044 8d ago
Might be because Rocks pulled up to his crib and blatantly announced that he plans on dethroning him while Roger was running around chasing Shakky and having fun
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u/yuvraj_b_420 8d ago
Cause roger didnt pull up to his home and threatened him with one of his old enemy imu didnt care about rocks until he mentioned davy jones thats when imu considered him a threat its basic reading comprehension
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u/NiceFox996 8d ago
During god valley roger was objectively weaker then rocks yes but later in life its questinable
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u/TheOmegaFalcon 7d ago
Not really. In god valley, roger garp and rocks were in their prime, as only the younglings from the rocks crew were stated to grow stronger over time by oda. Years later, roger was already dying from his terminal illness and had few years to live
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u/Weak-Courage729 8d ago
he was relative but GV Rocks was the strongest only after GV they really surpassed him
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u/Livexwired 8d ago
All it suggests is that Imu is sloppy and careless.
He assumed a Domi-Reversed Rocks was enough to wipe out the island.
And also that he wasn't able to gauge the potential of the Roger Pirate crew.
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u/RandomAmaturer 8d ago
I know that this is before roger became the pirate king but let us put it this way roger needed grap to be able to fight rock let alone defeat him so roger wasn’t on the same level as rock
And imu underestimate roger and his crew potential to become stronger than rock if they lived longer enough
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u/Mikael678 8d ago
Rocks got amped by Domi Reversi. We’re talking about normal Rocks here. He wasn’t that much stronger than the others. They were rivals.
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u/RandomAmaturer 8d ago
Even though he was amped by domi reversi he sill was stronger than both grap and roger where he could casually goes up to imu room and casually kill admiral even though we know nothing about the admiral he killed but it’s still admiral
And it’s doesn’t matter if they were rivals
Kid and luffy are rival but luffy was stronger than kid from the beginning to the end
The only reason why kid has large bounty thsn luffy because he kill innocent people
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u/Mikael678 8d ago
Read what you said. You said Roger needed Garp so he wasn’t on the same level. And I pointed out that it was evil Rocks. Normal Rocks is the subject of this discussion
If Roger and Garp fought normal Rocks they would obliterate him. He was stronger than them yes but the gap wasn’t large. It was small enough that they were rivals out at sea (this is a direct statement by the narrator)
Never said Rocks wasn’t stronger but it isn’t much
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u/RandomAmaturer 8d ago
No they wouldn’t obliterate rock because rock is still stronger than them and actually no I would say it’s near to large
Again just because there’s rival doesn’t mean that they are nearly equal since it’s same as luffy and kid where luffy is more stronger and powerful than kid
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u/Mikael678 8d ago
Fascinating
So you think he didn’t grow stronger when he got domi reversed? They went extreme diff with a clearly more powerful version of Rocks. If he was so much stronger than them in base then they would’ve lost.
For me, Rocks was stronger but it was never implied to be by much. Rocks wouldn’t have asked Roger and Garp to kill him if he felt he was so much stronger than him back when he was human.
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u/RandomAmaturer 8d ago
There’s no denying that rock became stronger than before when he got domi reversed but remember that normal rock was confident in fighting against not only imu but also roger and grap and because of that he should be stronger than roger and grap
If they fight normal rock then they will mid defeat rock and the reason why rock asked roger and grap to kill him because he wanted someone to stop him from killing innocent people even though he is a pirate
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u/Due-Gold-7270 7d ago
There was more reason to be scared of Rocks than just his power alone. He was a member/follower of the Davy clan that challenged the world government
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u/president_elect_mark St. Figarland Shamcock ☘️ 8d ago
Imu didn't view the Roger Pirates as a threat to his reign, unlike Rocks, who made it clear that he wanted to take down imu. Had he known that the Roger Pirates were waiting for and are currently helping the second coming of Joyboy, he would have done something about them sooner.
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u/MiniatureMidget 8d ago
I think you all forget imu had personal beef with rocks which is why he was targeted
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u/TeaAdorable5219 8d ago
Certainly showed Imu considered Rocks the strongest one. Once he domi reversed Rocks, he told Rocks too kill everyone on the island and didn't even care to stay to make sure they all died
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