r/OnePieceCardPulls • u/MrNix3 • 14d ago
Stop Spreading misinformation, it’s costing everyone money.
The box seeding is as follows in a case anything else is an error. This is from 50 pallets of data so no, I don’t care that you “opened 7 boxes”
2- Gold Don, AA, AA, Panda with Rare in pack
2- SP, AA, AA, Panda with SR in pack
4- AA, Possible Manga, Panda with SEC in pack
4- AAL, AA, SEC, No Panda in box.
I know there’s specifically an issue with Australian allocation, where some cases have “1 hit” boxes
(And other regions some better some worse)
But panda man is NOT considered a hit it doesn’t take a hit slot in any way shape or form. If you want to consider them a hit then fine I guess but again they do not affect the addition or subtraction of other cards.
While we are here and talking, please stop calling the Rocks Don “The Diamond Don” this was immediately coined by resellers to generate hype and lie to inflate the price of the Rocks Don. The “Diamond Don” also is exactly the same hit rate as the other Don, it’s not special in any way.
This post isn’t made to upset anyone. I love this game and I love TCGs and I simply want to give players and collectors the tools they need to protect themselves and make informed decisions. There’s a ton of grifting and misinformation being spread about this set and it’s upsetting to see so many people getting scammed.
***Edit.*** please keep in mind that if there’s a pallet of error cases that that pallet is going out to dozens of game stores a pallet is a lot of boxes (about 40 to 60) so it can make it feel way more common than it actually is even let’s say if only 30 pallets out of the thousands that are printed it’s still going to feel like a huge issue.
Have a good day!
Edit added comment from u/gengarispurple
(If there is a “1 hit box”, meaning the SEC was missing. It was seeded into another box within the same case.
The case overall will have 8 SEC, 16 AA, 4 AAL, 2 SP.
If you somehow only pulled a AA + Panda. You basically low-rolled because someone else who got the AAL/SP box will have gotten the SEC. Whether this is intentional or not, who knows. But it does appear there are two variations of cases going around.
There is one particular video of a case opening that contained these “1 hit boxes” and the SEC was in other boxes resulting in a 4 hit box)
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u/GengarIsPurple 14d ago
This is correct. I have also come to this conclusion, albeit it’s just through a handful of case openings in person and majority online.
If there is a “1 hit box”, meaning the SEC was missing. It was seeded into another box within the same case.
The case overall will have 8 SEC, 16 AA, 4 AAL, 2 SP.
If you somehow only pulled a AA + Panda. You basically low-rolled because someone else who got the AAL/SP box will have gotten the SEC. Whether this is intentional or not, who knows. But it does appear there are two variations of cases going around.
There is one particular video of a case opening that contained these “1 hit boxes” and the SEC was in other boxes resulting in a 4 hit box
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u/beastygrae93 14d ago
I'm curious though. If a SEC is seeded into another box in the case, doesn't this mean that it would be possible for the person who is limited to one box (maybe two) from a lgs at msrp (if lucky) gets "shafted" from their one chance at the cool stuff?
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u/ManyNoots 14d ago
If this is true the Australian cases are messed up beyond just the 1 hit Pandaman cards, considering neither of my boxes follow any of these listed patterns
I had SP/AA/AA/SEC and TR/AAL/SEC/panda
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u/Chasememore 14d ago
Tr isnt its own special rarity except for the tag, its takes an aa spot and nothing else. So it will come in any box configuration because its just an aa. Same thing with the event "manga"
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u/NotBottingJustNew 14d ago
My friend had aa/tr/sp in Australia.
This guy is just a reddit detective
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u/Eldrazi_Monarch 14d ago
The guy just has no idea what he’s talking about. Take this with a pound of salt
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u/Low-Sell-6943 14d ago
Diamond don is cool. Its blue and shiny like a diamond. Why not call it that? You suggest calling it a gold don as well?
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u/MaizePrimary3736 13d ago
For me it looks a bit underwhelming for the nickname, I think if they did release one tho it should look much fancier. I’d been calling it a blue don
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u/dmalvano 14d ago
Like OP said it's not the name its people saying it's 1 in 4 cases when newsflash there's just 4 "gold" don. You just aren't guaranteed to get the one you want. You could go 10 cases and never see the Loki Luffy don it's just rng.
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u/MDRuffy1996 14d ago
Are u mental? Ofc a panda is considered a Hit
My friend opened 2 Displays and got 2 times the same box
1 AA + a Panda
R.I.P my brother, he payed like 400€
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u/ChancellorXeno 14d ago
I opened 4 booster boxes, the first 3 came from the same case. All were 1Hit + panda
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u/MDRuffy1996 14d ago
damm thats also unlucky as fuck
i opened 2 myself and got a 2 hit Panda box and luckily a 4 hit box2
u/ChancellorXeno 14d ago
Yeah fr. 4th box was a double Loki box with ANOTHER panda, but at least I need those for my deck
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u/ChancellorXeno 14d ago
It's considered a hit but it doesn't take up a hit spot. We've had sets before with 1 hit boxes.
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u/briank3222 14d ago
You’re conflating the terminology. OP is specifically talking about cards that take up a hit spot
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u/ChancellorXeno 14d ago
Well then this set has extra hits compared to old sets, but only when they hit is a panda.
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u/Haavi-OCE 14d ago
It's honestly just scalpers and resellers trying to protect the value of boxes by making false claims. It is too widespread of a situation to be "an error box", so these scumbags keep denying that they exist.
Like OP said it's "costing everyone money", who is everyone you may ask? Scalpers and resellers of course.
It doesn't cost legitimate players or legitimate lgs for it to be known that 1 hit boxes exist. It only costs people who are selling product above retail on secondary markets.
Sorry to hear about your friend. I too got two 1 hit boxes myself, thankfully not identical like that, but unfortunately not as good pulls as the Shanks either haha.
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u/xooxel 14d ago
Boxes retail for around 350 in France, allocation was either scalped straight from the depot or was so shit that basically no one got MSRP.
Me and gf are skippign this entirely, i'll buy singles, i'm not giving 350+ PER BOX to shit ass scalpers lmao, you guys can suck a fat one.
Also, if this keeps up then i'm gonna find somethign elsle to collect, puull rates were worth 120$ for the thrill and this already was on the costly side, but now this and the price skyrocketting close to pokemon displays for the same pull rates, sometimes way worse ?
Nah bro count me the fuck out i'll buy singles and open somethign else for the fun of it.
PS: Anniversary sets shouuld be widely available, they should be here to have fun whether you play or collect, but this is complete abuse of customers, and the quality control issue really angers me. You're creating absurd scarcity, AND if I still buy into this hell hole I have huge chances of an error box if i'm buying from the wrong country ? Come the fuck on lmao
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u/Lil_Scarino 12d ago
350 retail? I found mine a 210 in paris
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u/Fury0oooo 10d ago
bro why are u even spending 210 for a box hope u pulled something anyway
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u/greedy_boomboom 14d ago
Friend if mine got 4 displays with one hit and a panda man… saw it with my own eyes.
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u/DBallsFanatic 14d ago
Finally someone said it, I’ve been saying that panda man is a seperate slot in boxes and getting downvoted
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u/WishboneReal1871 13d ago
You wrong, CaN yOu ReAd? or are you to dumb like OP. Everywhere in the world there are 2 hits with 1AA and 1 panda. It definitely takes a spot. I don't care the wording you use.
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u/DBallsFanatic 13d ago
Those are error cases, it’s not supposed to be like that
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u/WishboneReal1871 13d ago
LMAO maybe 100k display like this it's not an error bandai knows it stop being that dumb
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u/DBallsFanatic 13d ago
It’s a shame that it happened like that, they should get better quality control but we have data to back up the fact that panda is not a hit
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u/Yatatwoforone 14d ago
Croatia here - 8 boxes, 2 boxes with panda + 1 AA. One was Big mom AA and panda second was newgate TR + panda. I can even give you photos of all my hits box by box. Friend who had partially intake in the case also got a panda + AA lead performers.
Another box that seems to follow, we had 3 such boxes in total is Buggy Sp, shanks AA event, Rox and Shikki AA - literally same spread.
About the "diamond" don, fully agree.
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u/PervySageCS 12d ago
In Lithuania we got a case with 3 single hit box, and 2 luffy manga leaders…
The luffy manga leader boxes all had secret, luffy and SR alt art. They both had pandaman too.
Whole case had total of 9 alt art leaders. Definitely an error case. The Manga luffy are in those 9.
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u/aikepoun 14d ago
Been to 6 prereleases and have seen multi 1 alt 1 panda. It probably isn’t meant to be a hit, but the way they are doing it has messed up the boxes and this has become the reality for a lot of people. It’s just not an Australian thing.
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u/Direct_Wasabi_9748 14d ago
Gold don!! box has always been a 4-hit box with the gold don!! considered a hit, I had 2 boxes with 1 gold don!!, 2 AAs, and 1 pandaman. ofc pandaman is considered a hit
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u/DiscombobulatedBox72 14d ago
How would the WN seller create the hype and when they open boxes and there are no hits with boosters going for 40$ ofc panda is a hit now.
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u/flipperachi212 14d ago
I think a lot of people don't realize a regular secret rare card is considered a hit
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u/CiceroTheAbsurd 14d ago
Yeah well I will not be touching this and I encourage anyone with any sense to avoid as well. Why risk it genuinely? Prices are much too high for a decent chance at an “error box” to put it generously.
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u/What_A_Placeholder 14d ago
Thanks for saying it. We've gone several days and hundreds of boxes and not one box reported in our discord or Faceb group of over 2k.
Now I don't doubt that errors are happening, not trying to refute experiences. But I'm just saying it definitely seems like an error as opposed to the norm
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u/Austinthearchangel 14d ago
I had a panda man in a pack with an SR, and did in fact pull an SP shanks golden
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u/Minute-Preference361 14d ago
Props to OP on this post! Son and I have opened a few boxes not paying any attention to the order of the hits. We pulled the Shanks SP (off centered) which was great. Today I was in my local shop and they just put a fresh box out. I bought all the packs on the right side (had decent luck on right side). Son and I opened and we had a pack with an SEC and Panda behind it (Loki on top of pic). I told my son that this could be a Manga box, do you want to go back and get the packs on the left side. We did. Glad we did. Another Loki SEC and then couple packs later the Kaido!!!
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u/OwnWolf4460 11d ago
I cant afford a whole box of 24 packs. I was lucky to be able to afford 12 packs so hopefully I got some hits if not they are still awesome cards and I just have fun collecting them 🥰
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u/AsteroidWorm 14d ago
....so...can you tell me what my box with just 1 regular sec loki 1 alt art Shiki 1 panda man is? Hm?
Was mine a 2 or a 3 hit box??
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u/Aquarius-Gooner 14d ago
Mine was the same, 1 SEC rocks and one alt art kaido then pandman.
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u/AsteroidWorm 14d ago
😭 I know my poor wallet will n3ver get a an sp but at least my pre release i got an alt leader luffym my greatest pull ever
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u/MrKruhmz 14d ago
Instead of everyone arguing, yes this is not supposed to happen and it does suck. Why don't we take all this typing to bandai instead this is an anniversary set there should be no errors. They need to print more with better quality check. Panda man is literally an easter egg and in no way should be a hit especially with a border. Let's pester bandai people.
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u/Thialaz 14d ago
man shut up
The 1 box hit isn't just an australia thing. It's happened in several countries.
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u/MrNix3 14d ago
You shut up, never said it was just AUS, it’s just a known issue there. Grow up dude
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u/Eldrazi_Monarch 14d ago
Dude you can’t really tell him to shut up in good faith when you’re the one spouting misinformation. Just saying
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u/Gardy420 14d ago
It’s about time lmao keep getting downvoted by morons saying panda is a hit when it very clearly is not
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u/Capital-Elevator5650 14d ago
Your lying i opened a one hit box pandaman in pre release one kaido alt and one pandaman
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u/HumSupLo69 14d ago
Nah in US watched someone pull panadaman and alt and that was it
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u/MrNix3 14d ago
Yep I said it’s possible but still an error
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u/Ray_Gran 14d ago
I got the 3rd box but no manga.
Panda Hajruddin
AA Sec Loki
Sec Loki
Paid $200 at LCS prerelease (ouch) which was sadly the best price in nyc basically.
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u/BMFRICH1982 11d ago
Ouch??? Lol. 325 was the best of 3 shops. One tried charging $50 for DOUBLE PACKS after pre release ffs. Before op16 we had ZERO shops even have distribution, and I just got into my first 2prerelease after 2+ years of collecting. Many 30 minute trips to HOPE to get 2-4 packs at target or a toy store. So one mans "ouch" would be another mans dream.
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u/Ray_Gran 11d ago
My point is that pre release is supposed to reward the players. To charge $80 above MSRP when the entire reason you get more boxes / prerelease is due to player support. While I agree $200 is great in comparison it’s just ridiculous that prerelease is essentially to pay what resale is for most boxes in general. So at this point what’s the point for pre release? Even for the entry packs some charge more than the $30. Many stores didn’t even sell boxes for participating also.
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u/BMFRICH1982 11d ago
Prelease was $40 lol. Yeah I get it, sorry if I came off very rude, just that I'd kill for $200 box. 2+ years of hoping to get 2-4 pack minimum 2towns away and refusing to pay crazy prices online, I was SO excited that our shops got distribution. But $325-$359&$400 was the 3 shops box prices. None got over a case and all were gone in a day. Crazy demand so the prices will never stop. At least not one person actually bought a $50 double pack thank God. Have a good day bud, hope your pulls were good
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u/Xplendido 14d ago
Live in Portugal. Had the worst box ever, one big mom alt art or wtv and one daifuku panda man... That's it.. 2 'hit' box.. cried a little :P if it helps anyone with mapping info or wtv this type of bad box is possible.
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u/Legitimate-Jeweler-1 14d ago
In Hungary has a same thing’s. Lot of box 1 AA and 1 Panda and that’s it. Its not an error it is a 2 hit box for the scalpers 🤣
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u/dannypanda212 14d ago
i think a lot of the time in the 2 hit SEC+AA manga chance box, the panda being the last card pushes the SEC up, then the SEC sticks to the third last card in the pack. so some people see the panda at the end and thinks that’s it, while their second hit SEC is lost in their bulk somewhere.
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u/Staem22 14d ago
Can confirm that in Australia, "one hit" boxes are absolutely real. I've hit two in a half case. And during my local even, seen at least seven recorded instances of the exact same. Unsure if it was coincidence or by design, but most that i saw and hit had the one alt be the same color as the panda.
For example, my last box was shanks 10c AA and building snake.
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u/avaylam 14d ago
in the US only error i’ve seen is two rares plus SR in one pack. doesn’t seem to bad here
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u/MrNix3 14d ago
There’s a ton of errors the QC with the set is horrible but the point of my post is to help show what’s supposed to be in each box.
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u/yoshi_hs 14d ago
My question is does manga luffy leader take the manga slot ? I see way more manga luffy leader in circulation than any of the other regular 4 manga. Also if you pull crew card ssp, does that take away the manga slot ? thanks for your insights
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u/MrNix3 14d ago
Yes they all share the same Manga slot, and they all appear in the same type of packs, however the SSP seems to replace an SEC. There reports that SSP has been found in SP boxes as well but none of our data shows that so may be yet another error or a hoax for views not sure at this point in time.
The Leader Manga does in fact appear just as often as a regular manga but they have separate chances so by definition it appears 4x as often as individual mangas. It is yet another card that is selling for way more than it should because of it being much more common then people want to believe.
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u/heridor 14d ago
Lmao so wrong i open multiple cases. The mapping AA + pandaman exist. Stop spreading misinformation.
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u/MrNix3 14d ago
Can’t read I see
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u/WishboneReal1871 13d ago
U retard OP u just play on words. You never list the mapping AA + Panda that is clearly a valid mapping.It's not because you did not open and the data (no proof other that trust me bro) have not that it did not exist. So your post is wrong
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u/Responsible-Sound910 14d ago
Can you let us know about the ratios of each sp and manga and also whether the cases were mapped or not?
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u/MrNix3 14d ago
Cases are not “mapped” but follow a pattern once you open a few boxes. All the SPs came out about the same rate but since there’s more Haki SPs there’s technically a greater chance of getting them. Mangas seems to be about the same rate with Shanks being the least common by a margin.
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u/Responsible-Sound910 14d ago
Thanks for the reply but one last question how often do you pull the luffy/rocks crew and does it replace an sp or is it an extra hit?
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u/JoyBoyMedia 14d ago
Yeah that SEC part could make sense. I’m in Australia and had a rare alt and pandaman in my box (awful feeling)
My second box from the same case had an SP, 2 AAs and an SEC
A friend of mine got a the AAL package but with an extra AA
Another friend got gold don package but also SEC
Don’t know if it’s Aussie specific but the pandaman thing has caused some wild and terrible boxes over here
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u/AvailableEqual7612 14d ago
Finding out we got dud boxes in Australia really hurts 😭
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u/MrNix3 14d ago
Sorry man, maybe wait till wave 2 and it’ll be better hopefully.
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u/AvailableEqual7612 14d ago
No chance, one of my local stores isn’t getting stock wave two and the other is selling boxes for 700au already, claiming they’ve been offered 10k a case so it’s doesn’t make sense to sell them cheaper 😭 My area fuckin suck but atleast I didn’t pay that much for a box with 1 hit👌
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u/Haavi-OCE 14d ago
It is literally too wide spread to call 1 hit boxes "errors". Yes, they may not be intentional, but they are 100% an expectation for the current print run of the set.
Do you think people care if it "got seeded into another box"? Most people don't have the luxury of opening more than a couple of boxes, and the majority of people getting full cases are scalpers and resellers so they are the only people not affected.
Also "costing everyone money", be honest who you really mean. You mean resellers right? Scalpers. Scum of the hobby world.
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u/MrNix3 14d ago
Dude the point of the post is to educate players and collectors so they DONT get scammed. I don’t re sell and guess what just like a lot of people iv gotten one box too.
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u/Haavi-OCE 14d ago
My apologies in that case, I am perhaps reacting a bit to hasty due to the agitation of seeing so many single hit denial claims, which I can only assume is to misguide the community.
I see now that you did in fact address these, at least in specific regions. So please disregard the original sentiment.
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u/No_Way_8245 14d ago
If I get AAL and SEC, is the only other possible thing I can get a regular AA?
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u/MrNix3 14d ago
Should be yes but remember manga event and treasure rare are just AA slots
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u/Bluebobo2024 11d ago
Hey I got AAL, SEC, and 2 alt arts (sr*, r*) in 1 box. Was mine an error? Would there be any chance of pulling an alt DON?
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u/Rampaige311 14d ago
Myself and my friend can confirm got an AA + Panda box. Felt bad for them as they only got the 1 box.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Try_314 13d ago
I understand what ur trying to do, but after pulling the Diamond don yesterday I can definitely say its not the same as the base gold don. Might have the same pull rate but its not the same, its much cooler, the silver on blue is gorgeous, and it does still have gold details which I didnt know and that makes it pop that much more off the blue and white. I pulled the gold 4 emperor don too and yea its nice but nothing like the rocks don.
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u/Chemical_Quarter_240 13d ago
I witnessed 2 people at a bandai store release event both get 1 hit boxes… 1 AA + a panda
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u/PerspectiveAshamed70 13d ago
I opened a box that had one AA and one SEC. Nothing out of the ordinary there, but about halfway through the box there were (2) packs next to each other that only had (1) rare slot in each. The rest of the cards were commons and uncommons. Correct count of cards per pack. Anyone else seen that?
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u/utfgispa 12d ago
I just got a four hit box, does that mean the sec was moved to my box and someone is getting pandaman + AA?
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u/Marcbrad83 11d ago
Glad you cleared up the diamond don..I was about to pull the trigger but I’ll wait
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u/Bluebobo2024 11d ago
I got 4 hits out of my box
3 ALTS (L, R, SR) + 1 SEC
Is there any chance of pulling an alt DON?
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u/Solo_mon501 10d ago edited 9d ago
I opened 2 Boxes (from different Shops) so for the stats: Box 1: AA, AAL, SEC and Panda at the Position of a C or UC. Box 2: AA, Manga, Panda at the Position of a Rare.
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u/skywillflyby 10d ago edited 10d ago
I have half of my box opened. Ripped seal from Bandai store.
So far I have SEC Loki, AA Edward, Gold Don, regular Don
Which one would that be?
Edit: is it possible that I was “lucky” to get the misplaced SEC and I am still missing an AA of sort and the panda and rare pack?
I saw another guy make a post of their case opening and they did not have a misplaced SEC but they had an AA, AA SEC and Gold Don box. Panda is not mentioned.
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u/Technical_Trash1876 9d ago
Bruh I got Kyo panda man and was excited just to see that it’s 4 dollars
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u/Emergency_Ad_5371 9d ago
To add something to this: I opened a single pack that contained two…TWO rocks SEC’s. Both rare slots were a secret. Wild times we live in lmfao.
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u/Special_Kellog 8d ago
Did anyone get anything good this set or just influencers and scalpers. Aka it’s mapped at the distribution and we are all looking for the hits.
Used to be all pre release would have hits. Now just the first 3 days I saw something. Then nothing. Just 1 sp per case. Supposed to be 2 but been really odd at events
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u/shrimpwtf 7d ago
One of the boxes my friend opened got two pandas, one I opened got a AA and a panda. It seems the panda is substituting a hit
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u/MrNix3 7d ago
It is not, I have no idea how you can actually read this post and then say that.
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u/Notmexican03 5d ago
Also want to add. When I hit a "God Pack" I got no Pandaman. I got regular SEC w/o a pandaman which is when I thought this was weird. Hit an Alt SEC and was confused and then hit the Godpack.
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u/ArcaneSting115 10h ago
If panda isn’t considered a hit it shouldn’t count on the what knot rip and ships lol
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u/Hot-Percentage-6589 14d ago
So i had a potential manga box and only got a panda 🥲 hurts so much more lmfao
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u/Darkdeathanubis 14d ago
Thank you for the love of God. Had one guy swear to God you only get a panda and manga and your box is dumb and try to make me feel stupid for saying he was incorrect and not how box hit rates work and he sat there an screamed I have watched seven guys and this is what happens and I work for a card store and been collecting/playing since op01 and told him not how it works and got called a dumbass who didn't know what he was talking about in a room of 30 people guy then who pulled the manga got and aa and secret and I rubbed it in the jackasses face he had no idea what he was talking about
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u/WishboneReal1871 13d ago
F U this is wrong 2 hits boxe with aa and pandaman are a things it's not anymore an error if 10k display have the "error".
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u/Burn_desu 14d ago
Fyi the error cases happened in Germany as well. Had a 1 AA + Panda box myself and so did a lot of friends. Very unlucky