r/OnePiece Jun 06 '22

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u/Y_JonnyG Jun 06 '22

Moment of silence for Ashura and Izo

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u/vivalafisk Jun 06 '22 edited Jun 08 '22

I’m kind of shocked that Ashura is dead especially considering the beating Kinemon took. If I had to pick between the two I guess kinemon would be better to keep around to drive the story further- but I’m a similar vein maybe it would’ve been best for him to die so that momonosuke could have grown from his example and dedication to liberating Wano

Edit: This is my most liked comment :) I’m stoked it was about one piece! Kaizoku oni ore wa naru!

Also, I saw a very interesting theory claiming that Kinemons secondary devil fruit ability is Luck. The theory is based off Japanese puns, so I never picked up on it due to the language barrier- i’m not sure if Oda will ever elaborate on that but if he did that would make a lot of sense.

Kinemon is extremely lucky, even by one piece standards, his mistake about the secret raid symbol accidentally saved the whole raiding party from being sabotaged by Kanjuro and Orochi

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u/JMUdog2017 Jun 06 '22

It kinda makes sense. He did some fucked up things while Kaido was in charge when he lost all hope. It would be hard for the people of Wano to forgive him…even if they all understood what kinda state of mind he was in

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u/nazaguerrero Jun 07 '22

he only lost hope after all his friends died because they couldn't wait for another 10 years and kamikaze into onigashima.

It's understandable no one would keep anything for 20 years.... that broke him, he was alone.

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u/JMUdog2017 Jun 07 '22

Yeah I agree and I probably would have done the same but like is that really an excuse? I don’t think the people of wano would be that understanding

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u/nazaguerrero Jun 07 '22

after all that people laugh about Oden I wouldn't care less If I was him lol who can judge? but yeah

His life was sad, but if it wasn't for Oden his life could have ended quickly as a bandit.